Project Management
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I did the PRINCE2 Foundation and Practitioner class-based course over 4 days and did zero learning beforehand and passed it... the instructors are paid to get you to pass, and hardly anyone with some average knouse will fail the exams.
Just Google some documentation, download it, have a read to get the basics, and you will be fine when you get the books as you will have a bit of time to revise anyway.
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Id disagree actually.
to go into the course with an assumption that 'everyone passes' and 'its multiple choice' is the wrong way to go and would be a massive waste of time and opportunity if you fail.
I read the book cover to cover the week prior, did the week course and still found the test hard. If I hadn't of done the week prior I doubt I would have passed. There is a lot of content to cover in a short period of time.
to go into the course with an assumption that 'everyone passes' and 'its multiple choice' is the wrong way to go and would be a massive waste of time and opportunity if you fail.
I read the book cover to cover the week prior, did the week course and still found the test hard. If I hadn't of done the week prior I doubt I would have passed. There is a lot of content to cover in a short period of time.
I said if he downloads the basics beforehand, and then revises before he starts the course, then he will be be on a very good footing in a class-based course with a half-decent teacher... not that he "should fully expect to pass" and "it's easy because it is multiple choice".
The instructor told us the pass rate is in the high 90%, and he works for Learning Tree which is one of the biggest in the UK. It really wasn't complicated, and during the course the instructor basically got us to label the book with the things which we would need to pass the exam. Combined with a couple of nights revision it wasn't hard at all... and I had next to no real PM experience.
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Though i appreciate we all have our own different learning styles, that seems....crazy!
For those who are interested and if money is a driver, yes PM work can be well paid. Just make sure its what you want to do.
Like any role, if you dont enjoy it...it will show!
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I think it's the "mindset" that some people struggle with - Project Management, esp the Prince 2 framework, isn't necessarily what you'd call "common sense". I find the same people that get tripped up by it are the same people that get tripped up by other things like ITIL*
*This isn't meant as a slight - I entirely get why some people do have difficulties with them - and it's often the people that are brilliant in other fields but need things to make sense in a naturalistic logical way. I've also found the some of the best PM's are the ones that really had to work at gaining the accreditation(s) whereas the ones that walked them are often nigh on useless.
i agree with this - coming from a scientific background the course did not make logical sense to me, it was more about learning the language they use rather than any underlying principals (which are common sense).
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Not really, assuming it's just the foundation accreditation.
Getting staff accredited is normally so the company can say they are ITIL aware/ready when selling services. No real benefit to the employee, although the practitioner accreditation can open up some doors.
I'm practitioner accredited but I'm no longer in an industry where it would be useful.
ITIL v3 Foundation is bog-standard, anyone can take and pass that. As has been said it's more for the company than the employee, until you reacher the higher levels of ITIL qualification.
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Effective IT PMs are normally those that have some form of operational experience and understand the content. It's all very good being super organised and knowing the ins and outs of PRINCE but if you don't understand the subject matter then project resources will be running rings round you.
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I completed PRINCE2 (Foundation & Practitioner) two months ago. The course is incredibly intense. I turned up an hour late on the Monday morning, having had no opportunity to do the pre-course reading and knowing **** all about PM. Put some effort in on the Monday evening and passed the Foundation exam on the Tuesday afternoon. Practitioner takes everything one step further.
That said, it's not rocket science. If you apply yourself then you should be OK.
I'd agree with this, hence why you find many PMs grow into the role from an operational or technical position and so long as they can adapt to the administrative side of project management they can make very strong PMs.
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Holy thread resurrection, finally managed to get on this course. Passed Foundation and Practitioner which I'm obviously pleased at.
Its far from simple, required a lot of revising.
Its far from simple, required a lot of revising.
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I have been change and IT PM'ing for years in Banking and Insurance, best advice I can give you is to really focus on your people skills, stakeholder management and problem/conflict resolution are a part of daily life and if you learn to deal with them your more or less sorted.
And yes I have had grey hair since mid 30's, many sleepless nights but my family live a decent lifestyle
And yes I have had grey hair since mid 30's, many sleepless nights but my family live a decent lifestyle