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I personally have no issues with it and find it reassuring.
Pre-employment drug and alcohol screening
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You are utterly wrong. And it is relevant for work.
There are hundreds of cases of people being sacked and guess what they all stand.
It is very common in many sectors, from driving jobs, to machinery(forklifts, cranes etc) to jobs that only have you around heavy machinery.
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Remember, our nanny state says that we can now only have 14 units a week tops otherwise we are very naughty boys 
But we know that we'll all die early anyway from diabetes, cancer, dementia and stroke, because the BBC propaganda machine kindly reminds us of that every New Year.
But we know that we'll all die early anyway from diabetes, cancer, dementia and stroke, because the BBC propaganda machine kindly reminds us of that every New Year.
It's a pre-employment test of which the OP will need to agree to declaring the results to the company, this includes specific results so depending on the company's specific alcohol and drug policy would give them a justification not to employ them.
Once employed, contractually any employer worth their salt will also have a written policy on what is and isn't acceptable as regards alcohol and drugs and what is likely to happen to you if you fail any subsequent tests, likely to be "counselling" in the first instance then sacked after that.
You think it is legal to fire someone for having any level of alcohol and calling it alcohol misuse?
I don't believe that for a second, is legal. I'm sure most companies take a pragmatic approach.
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You'd be fired at my work as you'd potentially be putting other's life at risk if you're not fit for your job. Or at least suspended pending investigation. If you were in your probation you'd probably be let go. Certainly it won't do your service record any good.
Plus, if you're drinking enough that it is still in your system the next day you need to revision your relationship with alcohol in my opinion.
And other drugs.... Why take the risk. If you want to enjoy those nefarious activities choose another line of work where D&A tests aren't part of the norm. Many jobs don't have them so go and work there instead. Don't choose an industry where these things are necessary for employment and random testing is likely to occur.
It's not called alcohol misuses, it's called failing a test that is in your contract, and is very legal. Go find me a court case where they have thrown it out.
Why are you even saying such nonsense. this isn't a new phenomena, it's been around for decades. And you wont find such cases as it's very much legal.
Ours is zero policy for drugs, and 1/3rd drink drive limit for alcohol. Many people have been sacked for it, and guess what they've had zero luck in tribunals.
Talk to a pilot
I just don't think in those cases it is as black and white as you've put it.
I'm not going to go out and do the research so I'll just concede the point.
How does that contradict my point? Pilots also have a legally defined limit. Do airlines take a zero tolerance approach, as in zero blood alcohol level? I doubt it.
no its being above the zero limit (for non medical reasons) which you agreed to adhere to when you signed your contract.
If you agree to a reasonable request that is clearly outlined in your employment contract with a signature at the bottom of the page you have zero grounds for recourse should you contradict that request, regardless of what it is.
When working at a place in teeside that constructed oil rigs we had to submit to a drug and alcohol test before we entered site, the pee test in a single cup tested for both and was very quick, around 30 seconds for results.
When working at a place in teeside that constructed oil rigs we had to submit to a drug and alcohol test before we entered site, the pee test in a single cup tested for both and was very quick, around 30 seconds for results.
Do you not have periods of more than 2 days off in a row? Can you not moderate your drinking in between those times?
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we have random drugs tests at work
they have court a few over the years
they have court a few over the years
I've worked in a warehouse environment where some roles had a contractual zero tolerance for alcohol and it was classed as gross misconduct. So potentially you'd be straight out the door with little come back.
Relay? Don't start sentences with And either, It's relay annoying.
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Not grammatically incorrect though