Audi A4 or A5?

the a4 is more practical than the a5. the a5 is meant to be a coupe like. as for diesels to ensure the turbos dont go in those, always wait 5 minutes before switching the car off.

Seriously it is a mass produced and marketed car, there is no need to keep the car running for 5 minutes after.

It isn't a 1000bhp full customised Supra :D

OP out of them to cars, I would go for the A5 as the SE is so bland in my eyes...I however am a fan of big alloys and bodykits on the Audis!! :cool:
 
On what basis does this stop the turbo from "going"?

The "theory" is that you keep the coolant flowing whilst the turbo cools down.

In practice, it's not a performance vehicle, just drive it a little less vigorously for the last mile of your journey if you are particularly worried. Otherwise just ignore it and carry on as normal.

My old 330d had done 166k on it's original turbo. No special "routines" were followed from my part, I can't speak for the previous owner, however I'm going to heavily doubt it.
 
the a4 is more practical than the a5. the a5 is meant to be a coupe like. as for diesels to ensure the turbos dont go in those, always wait 5 minutes before switching the car off.

Nobody is going to sit in a car with the engine running for 5 minutes at the end of every journey.
 
On what basis does this stop the turbo from "going"?

Somebody I know bought a brand new Mk2 Focus TDCi a few years back (when they were new). The dealership recommended he should let everything idle for a few minutes before switching the engine off.

From an industrial perspective (I'm referring to large centrifugal turbochargers found in auxiliary systems of a power station for example) the seal separating the two chambers in a turbocharger are prone to failure if there is a sudden change in pressure and temperature over a short time. Brittle fracture of mechanical seals leading to small shards colliding with a 5000 rpm spinning impeller wrecks turbochargers and nearby plant.
 
OP out of them to cars, I would go for the A5 as the SE is so bland in my eyes...I however am a fan of big alloys and bodykits on the Audis!! :cool:

Yes!! this is the reply I have been waiting for LOL I do want to be fairly sensible but spending so much time commuting I want a car that I will be happy driving...

Just been looking at Mondeos / Mazda 6s / Passats etc and i'm feeling slightly suicidal... But, 100k miles on the A5 is just too much I fear when doing 20k miles pa.

There is a 2011 3 series with 69k on the clock, think that may be the best compromise between fun / economy...
 
You're likely comparing a base spec SE model of the current(now previous as of this year) A4 alongside a relatively new 3 series so the difference will definitely be staggering. The previous gen 3 series had a rubbish interior.

Both the A4 and 3 series are 2011 and £9995 this is the BMW http://www.lowesoflarne.co.uk/vehicle/2011/BMW/3 Series/1193

In fairnes to BMW, I think the equipment list is nearly identical to the A4, but its the look of it... The A4 looks 3-4 years newer that the same age BMW imho
 
To be honest I don't like that BMW, aftermarket wheels look crap and think looks wise the A5 you posted earlier in the thread is miles ahead.
 
To be honest I don't like that BMW, aftermarket wheels look crap and think looks wise the A5 you posted earlier in the thread is miles ahead.

lowesoflarne.co.uk said:
THE ALLOYS SHOWN ARE AN OPTIONAL EXTRA

Is it just me who thinks that this is a bit odd? The same is listed on the A5 advert as well.

Also bit odd that Mileage is not listed on any of the cars on that site?
 
Run a mile from those wheels on the BMW you linked. If the previous owner had the bad taste to fit them, I would conclude they also probably ragged the arse out of it.

Edit: Does it have to be a German saloon? There are some nice alternatives near by if it doesn't:

Honda Accord: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...cord&onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&logcode=p

Skoda Octavia VRS: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...BT3 9ED&fuel-type=diesel&make=skoda&logcode=p

Volvo S60: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...o=10000&postcode=BT3 9ED&ni-only=on&logcode=p
 
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Oh yeah, so it does. OK so maybe not that exact S60, but the point remains, there are a lot of nice alternatives about if you are happy with something not Audi, BMW or Merc.
 
Most cars I've owned with turbos merely told the owner to let the revs return to idle before turning off. Not sitting in it for 5 minutes idling away before leaving it for the night. I suspect they'd sell far fewer if this were necessary!
 
[TW]Fox;29046972 said:
Flogging high mileage cheap bling to daft people?

On that site though I wouldn't know it was high mileage cheap bling - just cheap bling.


It also might just be how I read it, that the wheels are optional (and I assume an extra cost), yet are included in the pictures.

(* As opposed to them being an optional extra from the original spec)
 
as for diesels to ensure the turbos dont go in those, always wait 5 minutes before switching the car off.

This is about as ridiculous as the advice in the manual for my Mazda that recommends removing and storing the radio antenna whenever the car is left unattended.
 
Both the A4 and 3 series are 2011 and £9995 this is the BMW http://www.lowesoflarne.co.uk/vehicle/2011/BMW/3 Series/1193

In fairnes to BMW, I think the equipment list is nearly identical to the A4, but its the look of it... The A4 looks 3-4 years newer that the same age BMW imho

Just because there's an extensive list doesn't mean these aren't standard mod-cons you'd get in a Vauxhall hatchback :p

You're doing circa 80+ miles a day(looking at the opening post)? Is a 3 series coupe on stiff suspension and aftermarket wheels really what you need? I'd opt for something comfier, perhaps not in the premium brand realm. Octavia?

If mileage isn't a huge concern, have you looked at a 1.8T A4? If your journeys consist largely of motorways and A roads with a steady flow of traffic you'll hit 40mpg.

In the interest of arguing A4 over the 3 series, here's mine:

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More 'modern' (if you want to call it that) than the previous gen 3 series IMO which I instantly wrote off as a contender to begin with. I've not looked at the pricing now but at the time, this was cheaper than the equivalent diesel because it's a TFSI but with everything except nav.
 
Looks really nice, but the steering in them still writes off mainstream Audi's as a whole for me. Having driven the BMW competition, didn't you feel a little bit short changed by the feel of the Audi?
 
The interesting thing about the A4 is that it's always playing catch up to the 3 Series. This has both positive and negative effects.

It means that when it first comes out, it feels fresh and modern compared to the 3 Series which has usually been out for at least 3 years at that point. However it then means that towards the end of its life it begins to feel decidedly long in the tooth before feeling hilariously out dated and a complete waste of tine when, in, say 2015, Audi are still selling a car designed to compete with one that came out 10 years before.

What this means, therefore, is that the best A4's to buy at the first 2-3 years worth, before the 3 Series it was built to compete with gets replaced.

Which means the 2008-2010 ones are worth a look and it also means the current model that has just been released is currently making the 3 Series look a bit old hat..

A 2009 A4 is therefore a great buy right now, whereas a 2014 A4 is awful.
 
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