Anyone have experience of GBH/Assault?

~>Dg<~ said:
nothing much just have to grin and bear it.

strikes me something else maybe happened :)
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Oh yeah you have deduced that something else happened when cctv, witnesses and the guy who actually did it have confirmed maybe something else didn't happen. Top input. Cheers.

Edit : in fact I'm not even sure what this stupid reply even means. Nothing much what? I've already gone through police channels, I've said enough information in the thread to give a basic idea. Grin and bear it? Wow
 
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Me and a co-worker got attacked outside work a few years back by an ex employee who had a grudge.
We phoned the police they took ages as you would expect. He tried throwing a few punches my way then at my co-worker, then when he looked to be getting a knife from his pocket enough was enough and i swiped his legs and planted him on the floor where we and a passer by sat on his back and waited for the police.

We pressed charges and it went to court, he counter claimed saying i broke his nose and teeth which i did when he landed on the floor face first, but that was imediately rejected as it was all on CCTV. (CCTV company i work for we had multiple views of the whole thing) he even claimed i attacked him first he was just walking by, but the cctv showed him pacing about for 30 mins before we finished work.

It was still all very nerve racking in court from his lawyer, not a nice experience.
The police that took my statement said i showed great restraint and put such in his statement, our lawyer said it was as easy case as possible but it was still horrible in court.
He got 6 months custodial sentence, alcohol counseling or something and we each got £800 plus travel expenses. He had priors for assault so this being his second and third strike.
 
robj20 said:
Me and a co-worker got attacked outside work a few years back by an ex employee who had a grudge.
We phoned the police they took ages as you would expect. He tried throwing a few punches my way then at my co-worker, then when he looked to be getting a knife from his pocket enough was enough and i swiped his legs and planted him on the floor where we and a passer by sat on his back and waited for the police.

We pressed charges and it went to court, he counter claimed saying i broke his nose and teeth which i did when he landed on the floor face first, but that was imediately rejected as it was all on CCTV. (CCTV company i work for we had multiple views of the whole thing) he even claimed i attacked him first he was just walking by, but the cctv showed him pacing about for 30 mins before we finished work.

It was still all very nerve racking in court from his lawyer, not a nice experience.
The police that took my statement said i showed great restraint and put such in his statement, our lawyer said it was as easy case as possible but it was still horrible in court.
He got 6 months custodial sentence, alcohol counseling or something and we each got £800 plus travel expenses. He had priors for assault so this being his second and third strike.
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I honesty don't think cases like this should even get to court. Was a clear cut case..
 
Got sucker punched outside of a club during closing time a couple years back, broke my jaw in three places. Had emergency surgery which resulted in a 1 inch scar to my right cheek from the keyhole surgery and I've got 3 titanium plates in my face now too!

This was all caught on camera, the guy was standing on his own and I and a couple mates are busy chatting when for no apparent reason he turns around and takes my head off. Bearing in mind this guy is like 6 foot+ and built like a brick sh*house and I am 5'5 at 130 lb's it had quite the effect.

Anyway, soon as the police saw the tapes they identified him, he was already known to them plus I had 2 witnesses. He got a 2 year suspended sentence for GBH and I got about £200 compensation from the perp + £1.8K from the CICA.
 
You have all the metal in your face, scars from surgery and you get 2k. That's insane really. £200 from some scumbag and the rest out of a government pot. Unbelievable.
 
Typing that really reminded me how bad it was and yes, it's sickening how lenient his 'punishment' was, I mean what do you have to do to get sent down in this country PLUS the guy was known!?

I had 3 months off work (paid), my lower lip/chin was nerve damaged for 2 months, it looked like I had bells palsy at the time though it's okay now.

Thing is when I asked around the compo companies I was told by all that they wouldn't be interested because by the time they take their cut I would be left with next to nothing so I filed all the paperwork myself.
The CICA website and others suggested for my injuries I should have received about £4.5K, I got less than half that.

Also, the detective that worked on my case told me that even though it'll go down as GBH the best I am looking at is a suspended sentence and he gave off the whole feeling of 'why do I bother' and so Hedge don't hold your breath mate, the whole system is a joke.
 
Aldav said:
That's a bit different. The inference there is taking a positive action to obstruct, like giving a false name. That, they potentially could be done for. But with a few specific exceptions, the public aren't obliged to assist police, or even to give statements.

In other words, failing or refusing to help isn't illegal, but actively seeking to obstruct is.

Example - if you see someone's running and a police officer asks what you saw, you aren't obliged to say. But if you do say, and lie about where they went, what they were wearing, etc, then you're in trouble (if you get caught).
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Still stinks to me.

Granted if i were the police I'd be turning up every time they trained or played until I had the guy. The league should have banned them also.
 
Yeah, I sucker punched sum nonce giving it da big I am in a bar the uva day. He fought he was better than every1 else as he minced around the bar arkskin people to excuse him as he polightly brushed by my cru. Really fought he was sumfin!! Anyway I downed my usual Stella n Jager bomb fix and was well up for takin Mr Betta than me 2 skool.

I diden want 2 let ma boyz down so I belted him.
Fink I managed 2 break his jaw!!.! If I get nicked I'll just play on ma dizzybility (which I am because I have mild epilepsy and my hearing is shot what with all da ravin I do on the weekend). Probly get let off 4 da cost of a 10 deck of Richmond innit!! Lols




I hope the little ***** gets what he deserves mate! :(
 
Hah impressively worded RoboCod.

I'm not really massively bothered by what punishment he receives, I'll just be happy there is a degree of justice. The whole situation has been stressful and had a significant impact on my life.

Compensation side of things will just come down to the Crown prosecution and cica. Again not something I'm desperate for, but might provide some relief.
 
Kemik said:
Personal experiences won't work. It depends on the conditions and any priors for the alleged.

If you have been assaulted, why not just go to the police and report it?
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You come into a thread this late and ask why don't I go to police?

Maybe read more. Looking at my op I see it's not too well worded. But beyond that point you should see I've already done everything. I'm just wondering how it might pan out.
 
Hedge said:
Oh yeah you have deduced that something else happened when cctv, witnesses and the guy who actually did it have confirmed maybe something else didn't happen. Top input. Cheers.

Edit : in fact I'm not even sure what this stupid reply even means. Nothing much what? I've already gone through police channels, I've said enough information in the thread to give a basic idea. Grin and bear it? Wow
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sorry if it was a bit dickish reply you see so much bs on these forums you could make a john woo movie out of it :p

as for what you will get probably not much.its fairly common occurrence and while for the actual person who suffers from it is a big deal often to police or anyone else it is of little concern.

most yobs/louts whatever you want to pidgeon hole them as will just deny or even if caught not pay anyway. you wont get a penny from them as high percentage will be on benefits.

so they just agree to pay £1 a week or less.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
sorry if it was a bit dickish reply you see so much bs on these forums you could make a john woo movie out of it :p

as for what you will get probably not much.its fairly common occurrence and while for the actual person who suffers from it is a big deal often to police or anyone else it is of little concern.

most yobs/louts whatever you want to pidgeon hole them as will just deny or even if caught not pay anyway. you wont get a penny from them as high percentage will be on benefits.

so they just agree to pay £1 a week or less.
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Yeah I'm not really bothered about level of punishment or compensation.

Most important thing for me was the acknowledgement that I'd been a victim really. You start questioning yourself as time goes on, wondering if you had done something to provoke it. I was sure I hadn't deserved it. It's been a relief that my account of all things was as I remembered.

People approached me right after I got off the floor and told me his name. He's not a stereotypical chav or anything, just clearly has a temper. I guess their pleasure in grassing him up meant he had a bit of a reputation.

But anyway I'll leave it at that.

Cheers
 
Dis86 said:
Still stinks to me.

Granted if i were the police I'd be turning up every time they trained or played until I had the guy. The league should have banned them also.
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I sympathise with where your coming from (and even more with Hedge) but I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to see situations were a mandatory duty to 'help' police could be very oppressive, or even dangerous. It's also broadly in line with the principle that we are all entitled to expect the state to leave us alone unless we do something illegal, and the other team members, according to Hedge's account, didn't.

That said, a moral obligation can argued to exist giving people a duty to help. If you won't help when someone else needs it, you can't be upset if others won't help when you need it. We can hope that karma visits those team members, and indeed the puncher, with an appropriate karmic kick in the nads.

As for police attending every match looking for him, when we can't even guarantee under-resourced police attending burglary crime scenes, good luck with getting them spending that kind of manpower on this. Ths sad truth is that while it's a really big issue for the victim, it's a drop in the ocean for the police, and sadly, not a rare occurance.
 
The majority of cases like this are handled through the local magistrates courts and the outcome of the case varies from court to court.
The magistrates will take into consideration various factors.
The severity of the assault, did the assault cause actual or grievous bodily harm. Was it premeditated or spur of the moment. Does the defendant have prior convictions or he may have had charges against him in previous cases and been found not guilty.
Besides the CCTV, were there any witnesses, for you or the defendant.
Then there is both your account of events and the defendants, to be taken into consideration.
Once a verdict has been reached, the clerk of the court will advise the magistrates on what sentencing can be handed out.
Then the biggest crunch comes down to the magistrate. The actual sentence all comes down to what sort of person the magistrate is, sympathetic, a hardliner, has he/she had a bad day, etc,.
So, all in all, no one can really foretell the outcome of your particular case.
 
My best mate and another lad, many years ago were having a quite drink in a pub early doors on a Sunday evening in Lichfield, I am talking probably early 90's. They were at the bar chatting when they sensed the bar filling up with youths. Long story short, but at the time there was a group of lads I believe from Burton area, who would hire a mini bus and go out on an evening looking to kick off with some people away from their locals. Sadly this night they had walked in to the bar my mate and the other lad were having a quite Sunday beer.

Next thing my friend knew he had a sharp pain at the side of his head and bent over. He had blood in his eye and felt all hell break lose with punches flying. Now this story gets good because my mate (he was my best man, I his) is a big lad and at the time was playing semi professional ruby. The lad with him, well he made the SAS look like puffs (his Dad was actually SAS so I guess it's a gene or something) and he was a prop. My mate looked up and noticed John (the other lad) smiling and felling one after another with haymakers, so my mate decided he wanted some of that too and they both had an old fashioned bar room brawl.

Anyway the reason I am telling you this is they effectively smashed the **** out of the idiots but my friend got a bad gash to the side of the head due to a ring. I seem to recall the lad who wore the ring and started it got sent down and my mate got 500 quid compensation but the funny thing was when the police arrived they targetted said friend an associate as they seemed to be surrounded by people looking in a bad way laying on the floor when they arrived and it was the bar staff who had to intervene and point out they were the attacked not the attackers :)

I love it when **** heads get owned.
 
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