Freedom of speech - KCL's Student Israel society attacked by demonstrators

[drs101]

You do realize that new laws have been introduced that now make it a criminal offence to publicly show support for ISIS

People like you are so devoid of reality it's pathetic!

I think he is talking about people like Anjem Choudary and his mates that skirt around the law and abuse the system in a very clever way making it very hard to make any charges stick.

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

EDL marches get banned and no-platformed all the time.

But it's not a criminal offence to say you support them though is it!!

 

[scorza]

You do realize that new laws have been introduced that now make it a criminal offence to publicly show support for ISIS

People like you are so devoid of reality it's pathetic!

Are they actually being applied though? You can have all the laws you want but if the police won't enforce them because they don't want to be labelled 'institutionally racist' then what good are they?

Also, if the law is as you say and it's illegal to show support for the Islamic State then I imagine it's quite easy to get round - just don't mention them but continue saying how it's OK to behead the kuffir, or turn them into sex slaves or prepare for the Caliphate coming the Britain.

 

[Dis86]

so do the edl and bnp, they dont get banned either.

Have they killed innocent civilians? I don't think so...

 

[drs101]

EDL marches get banned and no-platformed all the time.

only if they want to march in a place were it will cause a mass riot, usually they are left to bounce up and don in some car park trowing **** at the police.

 

[drs101]

Have they killed innocent civilians? I don't think so...

we are talking about freedom of speech and in this case hate speech and plenty of that comes from far right groups as well as radical islam.

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Are they actually being applied though? You can have all the laws you want but if the police won't enforce them because they don't want to be labelled 'institutionally racist' then what good are they?

Also, if the law is as you say and it's illegal to show support for the Islamic State then I imagine it's quite easy to get round - just don't mention them but continue saying how it's OK to behead the kuffir, or turn them into sex slaves or prepare for the Caliphate coming the Britain.

Do you know anything about what you are talking about>?

I suggest you go do some research on the police bail conditions of which Anjem Choudary and people of his ilk are now being subject too! (rightly so I might add)


Sorry to burst your ignorant bubble but Islamic fanatics ARE being punished under UK law:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/17/four-men-charged-terror-arrests-london

 

[Dis86]

we are talking about freedom of speech and in this case hate speech and plenty of that comes from far right groups as well as radical islam.

Yes but those far right groups haven't incited others to acts of terrorism, murder or carried it out themselves

 

[Danthus]

Yes but those far right groups haven't incited others to acts of terrorism, murder or carried it out themselves

Some have put bacon on the door handle of a mosque.

 

[Dis86]

Some have put bacon on the door handle of a mosque.

Because that's comparable to taking lives?! Get a grip!

 

[scorza]

Some have put bacon on the door handle of a mosque.

Crime of the century right there!

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Because that's comparable to taking lives?! Get a grip!

Hows about murder and planting bombs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24675040

Add nail bombs to the mix:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...investigating-nail-bomb-attack-at-mosque.html


These two right-wing EDL muppets preferred petrol bombing mosques!

 

[Dis86]

Hows about murder and planting bombs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24675040

Is he a member of the bnp or edl? No. No he's not. So take your eye roll and shove it.

 

[drs101]

Yes but those far right groups haven't incited others to acts of terrorism, murder or carried it out themselves

there are people in all these groups that will go to far, extremism is a slippery slope regardless of what side the slope is leaning.

 

[Dis86]

there are people in all these groups that will go to far, extremism is a slippery slope regardless of what side the slope is leaning.

So...That's a no then?

 

[drs101]

there are people in all these groups that will go to far, extremism is a slippery slope regardless of what side the slope is leaning.

Is he a member of the bnp or edl? No. No he's not. So take your eye roll and shove it.

lol, you dont think there are people in these groups that want to or talk about doing such things?

 

[Danthus]

Because that's comparable to taking lives?! Get a grip!

Touch bacon?

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Is he a member of the bnp or edl? No. No he's not. So take your eye roll and shove it.

These ARE EDL menmbers!

These two right-wing EDL muppets preferred petrol bombing mosques!

 

[Dis86]

OK so to be clear, has an edl or bnp member attempted to or succeeded at an act of terrorism?

Yes. Or no?

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

OK so to be clear, has an edl or bnp member attempted to or succeeded at an act of terrorism?

Yes. Or no?

Yes, more than once

32 men sentenced to more than 55 years over Walsall EDL demonstration violence

Source = http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/32-men-sentenced-more-55-6433214


36 Page list of EDL members and their criminal convictions

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oCFu4MXoeKFDJBVMfPegvQqiDL91Q8jg_ZOyhe7VgV4/edit?pli=1

Below is the moment EDL member fractured the jaw of a Muslim man during an un-policed English Defence League (EDL) march

Below is Ryan McGee: (NOT convicted of any terror charges )

A soldier who wrote of murdering immigrants and who praised Adolf Hitler has been jailed for two years after building a viable nailbomb packed with 181 pieces of shrapnel to maximise the carnage it would cause.

Ryan McGee, 20, described by his defence team as “a bit of a loner”, wrote in a journal: “I vow to drag every last immigrant into the fires of hell with me.”

He downloaded a video of two bound and gagged men beneath a swastika flag, one being beheaded and the other killed by a gunshot to the head and went online to tell people to do something if they hated immigration. He supported the English Defence League, Ku Klux Klan and praised then British National party leader Nick Griffin.

Source = http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/28/soldier-jailed-nailbomb-ryan-mcgee-manchester-bomb

Second Derby EDL member convicted of racist attack

Ashley Pegg of Cowsley Road, Chaddesden, admitted committing affray and racially aggravated assault in an attack against a Muslim taxi driver last April. He was part of a gang of 5 who chanted “we are the EDL” and drank lager in Mohammed Rashid’s taxi. When they were asked to get out, they made racial threats against the driver and then punched and kicked him.

Source = http://emaf.noblogs.org/post/2012/08/13/second-derby-edl-member-convicted-of/