Freedom of speech - KCL's Student Israel society attacked by demonstrators

drs101 said:
we were talking about freedom of speech
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I know you can't read. That much is obvious...

I asked you or him to prove that a member of the bnp or edl has been convicted of attempted or actual terrorism. Neither of you can. Crazy posted more inaccurate links.

The reason I asked for that is that their members and associates are not terrorists unlike those of so called 'hate preachers' hence why the bnp and edl are still welcome.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I don't think of ultra feminists who protest against men rather than for equality as leftist, nor groups that want to shut down freespeech, doesn't matter if they CLAIM to be liberal and feminist and whatever else, that very attitude is extremely right wing and these groups of people should be labelled correctly. It's not leftists complaining about people speaking, but right wingers who believe they are lefty because they act like facists over a supposed lefty cause.
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non of those points has anything to do with left and right though :/
 
Dis86 said:
I know you can't read. That much is obvious...

I asked you or him to prove that a member of the bnp or edl has been convicted of attempted or actual terrorism. Neither of you can. Crazy posted more inaccurate links.

The reason I asked for that is that their members and associates are not terrorists unlike those of so called 'hate preachers' hence why the bnp and edl are still welcome.
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I think you will find that I said that they are all guilty of inciting racial hatred and violence, your the one who started talking about terrorism.
 
Dis86 said:
I know you can't read. That much is obvious...

I asked you or him to prove that a member of the bnp or edl has been convicted of attempted or actual terrorism. Neither of you can. Crazy posted more inaccurate links.

The reason I asked for that is that their members and associates are not terrorists unlike those of so called 'hate preachers' hence why the bnp and edl are still welcome.
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So building nail bombs and committing violence based on an ideology isn't terrorism :confused:
 
drs101 said:
I think you will find that I said that they are all guilty of inciting racial hatred and violence, your the one who started talking about terrorism.
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Yes. That being the reason they are still tolerated. Whereas hate preachers aren't.

One wants other races out. The other wants them dead. Can you not grasp the difference?
 
Dis86 said:
Yes. That being the reason they are still tolerated. Whereas hate preachers aren't.

One wants other races out. The other wants them dead. Can you not grasp the difference?
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yes i grasp the difference and there will be people with the same extreme views on both sides, they are all as bad as each other.
 
Dis86 said:
I'll ask one more time. Have they been charged with or convicted of acts of terrorism? Yes. Or no?
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Ahhh so it's down to semantics now? How convenient :rolleyes:
The fact of the matter is that any sensible non biased person can clearly see they have committed terrorist activities, you can split hairs and be as pedantic as you want, it just makes you look more stupid and demonstrates you have no argument!!
 
A 16-YEAR-OLD neo-Nazi from Loughborough plotted a Columbine-inspired school massacre using pipe bombs, knives, and a crossbow, the Old Bailey heard this week.

The English Defence League supporter stockpiled home-made bombs, terrorist manuals, and an array of weapons as he planned attacks on his former school and the college where he was studying for his A-Levels, the court was told on Wednesday.
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Source = http://www.loughboroughecho.net/news/local-news/loughborough-teenager-appears-old-bailey-6126233


The CLUE is in the name of the manual, but of course bigots only think Muslims can be terrorists or commit terrorist activities :rolleyes:
 
scorza said:
I caught a bit of a BBC3 documentary about the Klu Klux Klan the other night. These two idiots had printed a newsletter which featured a disgusting poem about President Obama and were distributing them via a "drive by" i.e. rolling them up with an elastic band and throwing them onto people's driveways as they drove past (I believe this is a common way of distributing lightweight literature in the USA, based mainly on the computer game Paper Boy). The narrator said that in the UK this would be illegal because of our racial equality laws, but in the USA where freedom of speech is guaranteed in the constitution there was nothing the police could do to stop them. I would much rather have our laws in this regard than theirs -what say you?
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No ways. I would take the US constitution over the eu super state humans rights tyranny or the british totalitarian section 5 or ad hoc bias hate crime laws.

We don't have free speech laws in the UK but if we did it would be about protecting speech that you don't want to hear not what you do. Unfortunately for the most recent generation, under 30s, they have been brainwashed to be social justice warriors and expect the government to make the world a safe place for them and the government will do anything to accommodate them.
 
scorza said:
I caught a bit of a BBC3 documentary about the Klu Klux Klan the other night. These two idiots had printed a newsletter which featured a disgusting poem about President Obama and were distributing them via a "drive by" i.e. rolling them up with an elastic band and throwing them onto people's driveways as they drove past (I believe this is a common way of distributing lightweight literature in the USA, based mainly on the computer game Paper Boy). The narrator said that in the UK this would be illegal because of our racial equality laws, but in the USA where freedom of speech is guaranteed in the constitution there was nothing the police could do to stop them. I would much rather have our laws in this regard than theirs -what say you?
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I would rather have ours than theirs every day of the week. I wasn't championing true free speech, simply challenging people saying what we have as free, when I say it is inherently limited and therefore not defined as free.
 
Israel for one does not exist, and it is actually Palestine. As for the Zionists, look at what they are capable of doing to innocent palestinians.
 
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