The Gender Pay Gap Is Dead

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The gender pay gap hit the headlines yet again last week. Government ministers announced plans for national league tables to show the difference in wages earned by male and female employees in any company with over 250 workers. Coverage of this latest attempt to crack down on the apparently blatant gender discrimination that blights the nation’s labour market has been sympathetic. Articles have been accompanied by helpful infographics showing a blue figure atop a substantially larger pile of money than an equivalent pink figure. The intention is to illustrate the frequently referenced statistic that men earn roughly 20 per cent more than women.

Despite the simplicity of this stark inequality, such figures are misleading. The much-heralded 20 per cent pay gap is an ‘on average’ figure that is reached through combining part-time and full-time earnings, and takes no account of age or employment sector. As I have argued before on spiked, when we compare how much women and men are paid for doing the same job for the same number of hours each week, there is no pay gap. Not only is it illegal to pay men more, such a pay gap makes no economic sense. If bosses could really get away with paying women so much less, why would anyone ever employ a man?

In reality, the pay gap is far more complex than campaigners like to acknowledge. It is affected by age, occupation and hours worked. Today, women in their twenties earn more than men of the same age. Significantly, they earn more than men not just like-for-like, but also on average. This means that irrespective of job type or hours worked, young women are likely to take home higher wages. For women under the age of 40 and working full-time, the pay gap is negligible. As government equalities minister Nicky Morgan acknowledged when announcing the government’s latest proposals: ‘We’ve virtually eliminated the gap for full-time workers under 40 and the gap for the over-40s is shrinking too.’

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Best to read the full article it's not very long ...

The existence of a gender pay gap, and the implication of rampant discrimination, must be one of the most promulgated myths expounded by the mass media including the BBC. It's about time the facts started to be reported rather than pandering to pressure groups.
 
Feminists would rather sit in their comfortable first world home making up problems.

Rather than actually go somewhere where a real patriarchy exists and protest against it (such as saudi arabia) they'd rather fabricate stories to give themselves a purpose, even if it's founded on utter ********.

Also there was a study that was posted on reddit recently, woman are twice as likely as men to be given time off when they want it.

Oh noooo that doesn't fit the "Oppressed wimmenz" narrative, quickly hide it!
 
are the gender pay gap figures going to be broken down by role/profession

for example would a private primary school that mostly employs female teachers, has a female head etc.. but has a few males gardeners, a maintenance man and a printer monkey/IT bod all on low salaries be shown to be skewed towards women etc..?

I mean any tech company that is mostly men but with some female receptionists, admin and cleaning staff is going to show a huge gap - but it isn't necessarily an unfair one given the vastly different roles concerned
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
Rather than actually go somewhere where a real patriarchy exists and seek to fix it (such as saudi arabia) they'd rather fabricate stories to give themselves a purpose, even if it's founded on utter ********.
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new wave feminists/SJWs are often rather silent when it comes to Islam

issues such as 'microaggressions' and 'stare rape' are more pressing
 
Forgetting any pay gap, how about the idea that both parents now work just to stand still in terms of house hold income. Bag of Fully star out all swearing IMHO!
 
A woman who works at my place on the same pay grade has just had the last year off to have a baby. Now as far as I'm concerned she's earn't more than me, per hour worked, as for 6 months of that she was getting paid the same as me with zero input.
 
Equality is a real ball buster.

If you're a woman and you've broken down on the motorway, you're prioritised by rescue / breakdown services over men. That's not very equal is it? ;)
 
Women under 30 earn more than Men under 30 and more Women are getting degrees than Men. Also Women get better exam results than Men.

It doesn't take much to extrapolate what might happen to the "pay gap" in 10-20 years time.
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
Feminists would rather sit in their comfortable first world home making up problems.

Rather than actually go somewhere where a real patriarchy exists and protest against it (such as saudi arabia) they'd rather fabricate stories to give themselves a purpose, even if it's founded on utter ********.

Also there was a study that was posted on reddit recently, woman are twice as likely as men to be given time off when they want it.

Oh noooo that doesn't fit the "Oppressed wimmenz" narrative, quickly hide it!
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You know who is a real pain in the ass lately... Who is this irritating woman that is never off Sky or any broadcast lately. With thin straight brown split hair who is apparently a comedian and activist.

Funny the first entry of google for, female comedian activist british is her. Kate Smurthwaite.
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
Feminists would rather sit in their comfortable first world home making up problems.

Rather than actually go somewhere where a real patriarchy exists and protest against it (such as saudi arabia)
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British feminists tend to focus their efforts on British issues. That's only natural. However, they do a lot of work in fighting problems like FGM but it rarely grabs the headlines.

But guess what? Feminists exist in Saudia Arabia too! Who do you think staged the protest against the driving ban?
 
Begbie said:
Which isn't the same amount of time?
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I think the mother has to take the first three months on the leave, but the rest of the leave can be shared between the parents however they see fit. A friend of mine recently, who earns less than his wife, took the majority of the leave for looking after their new born.
 
estebanrey said:
A woman who works at my place on the same pay grade has just had the last year off to have a baby. Now as far as I'm concerned she's earn't more than me, per hour worked, as for 6 months of that she was getting paid the same as me with zero input.
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I think statutory paternity leave is insultingly bad, but I don't blame women for that. I'd guess if more women had actual power Government/Business we might actually get somewhere with something representing realistic Paternity leave. But that's just an opinion and in no way meant to interrupt the current thread of patriarchal nonsense posts :)
 
I think the article goes against much of the published reviews on the matter and whilst I agree with him that blanket statements (paid 20% less) are perhaps not helpful, it smacks alarmingly of a reddit/mra anti-women rant. I'm not familiar with the website in the OP and may be wrong but the comments after the OP have a depressingly familiar feel to them.
 
Django x2 said:
Equality is a real ball buster.

If you're a woman and you've broken down on the motorway, you're prioritised by rescue / breakdown services over men. That's not very equal is it? ;)
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We have a policy at work where any woman who works 'after dark' (so basically during the winter) can park on site in our limited parking spaces whereas men have to park outside on the surrounding roads.
 
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