The Gender Pay Gap Is Dead
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No, there are wider studies.
You're looking at around 1 in 4 for lifetime sexual assault in Europe.
Yes there is a difference in severity. But there's a big difference in suffering a mild anxiety compared with severe psychosis too.
Let's at least be even handed in our cynicism.
when I was 17 and drinking underage in a club some old fat woman on a hen night, completely plastered, grabbed my arse and mumbled something about how I should go with an 'older lady' etc.. I felt like vomiting in my mouth and walked away
I guess that makes me a sexual assault victim too
I think most men have been on the receiving end of 'sexual assault' if we were to throw in the looser terms. I think the main difference between men and women would be one of frequency.
I also appreciate for women, the issues of power and dominance can come in to play too. However, whilst I'm absolutely not condoning it, I believe society is moving in the right direction here.
Equally, would you consider a teenager who's out in a nightclub learning to navigate the minefield of sexual attraction a sexual offender/predator simply because he mistakenly touched someone's bum in an awkward way to flirt?
Would it be 'assault' if the recipient was attracted to the person who did it? The lines begin to get very blurred indeed.
I think it's very misleading to quote statistics which conflate unsolicited kisses with rape. One can be an innocent mistake, the other is a very serious and traumatic crime.
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How has this thread gone from pay to sexual assault in 3 pages?
You have to provide a declaration from your partner of the dates they wish their SMP to cease etc and also details of their employer.
IIRC you can actually take time off together as well. Mother has to take 2 weeks maternity leave then they can curtail the other 50 and use as SPL. So you could both be off for 26 weeks each at the same time if you wanted.
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The quote you have shows says specifically that the woman makes more money than the man, but if she chose not to prioritise money she would have made less money than the man.... thus there is a problem?
You do know plenty of men choose not to prioritise money and also make less and also it's entirely ridiculous and sexist to presume women don't have a choice to do this simply because they do make that choice more often than men.
They stay at home or take less demanding jobs because men force them to..... yup, that is why a women CEO or lawyer working 80hours a week getting equal pay leaves their job via their own choice... it's not a case that they can't get that job in the first place, it's that they often choose to give up that job for a less demanding less stressful job.
Men and women get paid the same in the same roles, that is a proven fact from all over the place all over the western world. Trying to use personal choice to argue around that fact is ludicrous, counter arguments can be made also.
Men often stay in incredibly stressful jobs and work insane hours because society perceives that it's their job to support their wife and kids and to be as successful as possible... but that isn't a problem, nor are male suicide rates. Also men are also expected to work longer and harder, but then get punished for doing so if they get divorced and lose their kids. You could even say women probably have the choice to chose less demanding jobs or be stay at home mums largely because of societies belief that men should work stupidly hard and provide for their family above everything else. It's likely the unfair standards and the lack of choice for men that actually allows women to make their choice of less demanding jobs so freely. If society placed equal standards then men wouldn't be expected to work as hard, more men would choose easier jobs or to stay at home to raise the kids and in doing so less women would have that choice available to them.
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Without wanting to get into feminism arguments, how many women these days insist they were assaulted because a guy looked at them at all let alone just looked at their boobs. Which women do you think are going to be most vocal and most likely to fill out such a survey.
The problem as you said is taking sexual assault in ridiculously broad terms where a woman can basically claim absolutely anything as sexual assault is pointless, likewise if men used the same scale in classifying sexual assault how many men would say they have been victims as well? They bang on about one in 4, but if someone pinching your bum in a club counts, or a girl you aren't attracted to tries to kiss you and you push them away... then I and probably most men I know have also been sexually assaulted according to such a survey.
If this survey was given to men, the result would be stupidly high as well but no one gives a crap about that. Just misrepresenting the figures to make women look like victims and men look evil is all these surveys attempt.
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I'm a white male on crap pay so doing my part to narrow the gender pay gap. I must be some sort of feminist 
When she's not fit.
since it turned into third wave feminism and became less about real issues and more about microaggressions, stare rape and blaming everything on the patriarchy and white people
The main place that happens is in your head
no, tumblr is a real thing...
Stop going on Tumblr and you'll no longer be bothered by any of this. I've yet to meet anyone like you've described above and I know a lot of people who would identify as feminist.
The problem is that feminism is such an umbrella term now. It means different things to different people. Chances are, you're on the same page as some people who identify as anti-feminist.
If you were to go by one definition of it being a movement for equality, you can rest assured that most people would identify as a feminist.
However, feminism has now largely being hijacked by the third-wavers (thanks to the fringe radicals on university campuses and biased gender studies courses) and is giving feminism a bad reputation. If you dare disagree, you get shamed and shouted down. Facts and proper understanding of statistics don't even come into it.
The true equalitarians within feminism as opposed to the #maletears SJWs would do well to identify themselves as just that: equalitarians.
Feminism, by inception, is about positive discrimination to bring women on par with men. The argument now is that we've reached that parity and dividing the genders further over what often amount to non-issues and a lack of personal responsibility is both toxic and destructive to society at large.
If you believe in true equality, it's for everyone regardless of gender or any supposed notion of 'privilege' and is certainly not for one at the expense of the other. Third-wave feminism is selfish and invalidates the problems and voice of anyone in a conceived position of power or privilege which only serves to undermine itself.
Men have problems too, some directly related to the consequences of the progress of feminism. The problem is, third wave feminism likes to invalidate these concerns as it threatens their victimhood agenda.
No one is suggesting that first and second wave feminism was a bad thing or that they don't want equality. Feminism isn't pejorative, third wave is.
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maybe you don't have a very diverse social group then