Poll: Mental health discrimination
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Mental health, intelligence or lack it are quite entwined at times.
I think you take the internet far too serious and most of the issues I suspect are just disagreements or different perspectives not mental health. There are always people who need to be right more than you, sometimes they even are right and you're wrong and sometimes they will simply not be wiling to lose at the debate and even get personal to try and up their credit and down yours. My advice is learn to stop, to draw a line under it and NEVER go back. It doesn't matter when faceless people you most likely will never meet get shouty and angry on the internet. Make your point and move on, leave them to their anger and if they follow you around with it, don't respond or get angry. Their problem.
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Like death, people prefer not to think about mental health and what it means... until it stares them in the face. For men it's the extra social stigma that complicates the issue further, imho.
I really don't
I'm not saying I do this a lot, but a handful of times I've been made uncomfortable by what people are saying - sometimes I've even reported them to the mods because other forum members have missed the warning signs and continued to argue.I take depression and mental health issues very seriously, but know I'm not able or equipped to help the situation any.
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Put it like this, the internet is the wrong place to have "ass burgers syndrome" and be open with it (irony much?)
Irl its not so much of an issue, but you do get a fair amount of folk who definately have a warped view of mental health and what it means, i suppose its a bit like being colourblind you're less likely to get sympathy for something that doesn't visibly affect you in the same way that say cerebal pallsy does.
It's the same for any condition, i've been low a few times in my life (lets face it who hasn't) but i have no idea what true depression or anxiety really means so i find it much harder to empathise (not that empathising is a strongpoint of the autistic mind to begin with)
Irl its not so much of an issue, but you do get a fair amount of folk who definately have a warped view of mental health and what it means, i suppose its a bit like being colourblind you're less likely to get sympathy for something that doesn't visibly affect you in the same way that say cerebal pallsy does.
It's the same for any condition, i've been low a few times in my life (lets face it who hasn't) but i have no idea what true depression or anxiety really means so i find it much harder to empathise (not that empathising is a strongpoint of the autistic mind to begin with)
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This.
Mental health illness is something most people deal with at some point, some people more frequently than others.
What does discriminate mean?
If it means making decisions and taking actions that reduce the opportunities of others, then no.
If it means making negative comments in respect of mental health problems or making offensive comments, then yes.
There's probably a slight overlap if you construct a particular scenario, but generally speaking they are seperate things - attitudes and actions.
If it means making decisions and taking actions that reduce the opportunities of others, then no.
If it means making negative comments in respect of mental health problems or making offensive comments, then yes.
There's probably a slight overlap if you construct a particular scenario, but generally speaking they are seperate things - attitudes and actions.
Broadchurch for this, so for now it's both.
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Personally,i think the large amount of workplaces/bosses just wouldn't care..in their eyes your there to do a job,if you cannot do that job they will get someone else to do it.
A bit harsh i know,But they dont have time for your problems..only that their business is running good and making money.
I have Depression/Social anxiety..and its a large issue in my life but i just battle on with it,No way i would ever tell my boss...if the Depression/mental health issues are that bad you really shouldn't be working i think.
A bit harsh i know,But they dont have time for your problems..only that their business is running good and making money.
I have Depression/Social anxiety..and its a large issue in my life but i just battle on with it,No way i would ever tell my boss...if the Depression/mental health issues are that bad you really shouldn't be working i think.
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Out of interest, does anyone know when the stat changed?
I am reasonably certain that they used to state that one in four people would suffere from a mental illness at some point in their lives. Now they say one in four per year.
That seems a very very high figure if one is actually referring to a diagnosable condition which requires treatment.
I am reasonably certain that they used to state that one in four people would suffere from a mental illness at some point in their lives. Now they say one in four per year.
That seems a very very high figure if one is actually referring to a diagnosable condition which requires treatment.
I think the most pervasive form of mental health discrimination in workplace's is based around stress, the negative conotations and downright abuse people recieve for admitting they feel stress is scary.
I'm pretty positive I suffer from stress through the work pressure I have (team of two doing the job of 5 and they have no intent of filling the missing positions) as I don't sleep right, dodgy appetite, nerves, anxiety but I'll be damned if I will admit it as I have seen people get managed out the business for it though they are of course too canny to admit stress as the reason why it is happening.
Just crack on until I end up in a heap in the corner chewing my own hand
I'm pretty positive I suffer from stress through the work pressure I have (team of two doing the job of 5 and they have no intent of filling the missing positions) as I don't sleep right, dodgy appetite, nerves, anxiety but I'll be damned if I will admit it as I have seen people get managed out the business for it though they are of course too canny to admit stress as the reason why it is happening.
Just crack on until I end up in a heap in the corner chewing my own hand
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Yes perhaps that is where the stat has changed so radically.
However, being anxious, I do not think always qualifies as a mental illness.
In the same fashion, as liking items neat tidy and lined up, doesn't equate to having disruptive OCD.
I think they are abusing the stat for a headline, but in this case, given how underfunded things are, that is probably a good thing.
As for the OP, as I said earlier in the thread, I think many with mental illlness or some description, will not have suffered discrimination, as they have refused to tell anyone at work regarding it, for fear they'll be told to 'man up'
Now one of our medical chaps, please answer me this, are we clumping 'fibromylgia' in with mental illness in general terms still?
And where the hell has xordium been for six months anyway?
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I'm not a medical chap but I think it should in the fact that mental illness is a symptom of the condition. It causes depression, problems with cognitive functions, memory, concentration and fatigue. I know someone with it and it sounds horrible. I've been through a lot and experienced a lot so I feel I'm in a more empathic situation.
I never said anything about just being anxious, I'm talking about anxiety - it doesn't always require pills etc... 'mindfulness' apparently can help. Tis still a mental health issue and quite a common one - ditto to depression.
I think the most pervasive form of mental health discrimination in workplace's is based around stress, the negative conotations and downright abuse people recieve for admitting they feel stress is scary.
I'm pretty positive I suffer from stress through the work pressure I have (team of two doing the job of 5 and they have no intent of filling the missing positions) as I don't sleep right, dodgy appetite, nerves, anxiety but I'll be damned if I will admit it as I have seen people get managed out the business for it though they are of course too canny to admit stress as the reason why it is happening.
Just crack on until I end up in a heap in the corner chewing my own hand
It's normally the interaction between work and life outside of work that is when things become very miserable, I imagine. Having enormous pressure to perform at work when, say, your wife and child and sick and need looking after... cannot be fun at all.
In any case, it's really not inspiring when people cry at work, but everyone deals with stress in their own ways. I'm certainly not perfect! Actually, I tend to look up to people that are doing incredibly stressful things and somehow maintain their composure.
I'd just like to point out to those who don't understand MH issues:
With some things such as depression, there can be a lot of shame and self-disparagement going on which prevents people from admitting their problems or seeking help. Even the threat of discrimination can be enough for a depressive to withdraw or give up which is the exact type of behaviour which depression can feed off.
Discrimination is pretty **** at the best of times. For someone with a MH issue, it's just cruel.
With some things such as depression, there can be a lot of shame and self-disparagement going on which prevents people from admitting their problems or seeking help. Even the threat of discrimination can be enough for a depressive to withdraw or give up which is the exact type of behaviour which depression can feed off.
Discrimination is pretty **** at the best of times. For someone with a MH issue, it's just cruel.
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