Income tax must rise 3p to stop NHS 'staggering from year to year'

£20 to someone on a low income is an awful lot of money.

You would probably end up with a lot of seriously ill people who prioritised putting food on the table over going to see their GP. Long term = more strain on A&E and more cost in treating the resulting chronic conditions of those people.

On the other hand, investment in education of the idiotic who go at the hint of a snivel might be better in terms of longer term cost savings.
 
Mysterae_ said:
If the person terminally ill was your partner or child, I think you'd change your mind.
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I've had 4/5 family members with various illnesses. Cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. Their last months alive were horrendous. Both for them and the family around them. If they all died months earlier it wouldn't have been a bad thing. Then again I make the most of my family time. Do I wish they were still alive now? Ofc. But if healthy. I wouldn't want them to still be going through what they did.
 
So lets see the billions spent bombing other coutries or ploughling some of than money into the NHs....its a hard one.

Giving india with the best growing economy millions in aid, or ploughing it into the NHS ... its a hard one.

Letting immigrants in that cost millions year after year or ploughing it into the NHs....another hard decision.

sod it run the nhs into the ground and make these problems to force it into the private sector like america...problem solved
 
I'm pretty sure we don't give aid to India any more.

Also I don't think it's a case of just stop spending money overseas to spend on the NHS and cure all it's problems. If only it were that simple.
 
BDEE said:
You would probably end up with a lot of seriously ill people who prioritised putting food on the table over going to see their GP. Long term = more strain on A&E and more cost in treating the resulting chronic conditions of those people.
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Exactly... What do you think costs the NHS more - a GP seeing someone for 5 minutes to prescribe them an inhaler, or sending an ambulance round when they have an asthma attack, and then keeping them in a hospital for a few hours/overnight to monitor them?
 
BDEE said:
I'm pretty sure we don't give aid to India any more.

Also I don't think it's a case of just stop spending money overseas to spend on the NHS and cure all it's problems. If only it were that simple.
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Seems to me that the NHS's problems are entirely due to foreign aid, the EUSSR, immigrants, or Britain-hating leftie liberals.

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German system seems to work fine. You have a public and private health care system, but they are both independent of income tax. It's 15.5% for the basic public health which seems to be NHS standard or thereabouts, and you have the option of opting out and paying for private cover if you want it.
 
Personally I think the NHS needs to look at what services it provides for free and for less serious / cosmetic treatments just don't do them anymore.

That way we can spend the money on treating people well for serious conditions with the money we have rather than spreading it thinly across what we currently treat

No don't ask me what treatments are more or less important than others....
 
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