Recommend you have a read of this post in the referendum thread: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29208413&postcount=2636
Imagine if...Trump wins and there's a BREXIT
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Recommend you have a read of this post in the referendum thread: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29208413&postcount=2636
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Won't matter if we leave we will still have to comply with EU regulations and laws. What will matter is we will no longer have a say in the creation or changing of regulations and laws.
At current we have freedom to travel, live and work across Europe but that will be harder if we leave the EU
We in the UK should reflect on whether our net contribution of £7bn out of total government expenditure of £695bn is good value;
57% of our trade comes from the EU
Cheaper air travel, Mobile phone charges
funded opportunities for young people to undertake study or work placements abroad; access to European health services
holiday entitlement
equal pay legislation
the right not to work more than a 48-hour week without overtime
strongest wildlife protection in the world
EU-funded research and industrial collaboration
EU representation in international forums
cross border policing to combat human trafficking, arms and drug smuggling; counter terrorism intelligence
European arrest warrant
investment across Europe contributing to better living standards and educational, social and cultural capital
the list goes on but those are some of the things we wouldn't have, without the EU.
So tell me again why people want to leave it
Pretty poor reasons to stay. I really hope the 'In' campaign have better reasons than that.
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NEVER, I repeat NEVER underestimate the power of stupidity!
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Trump is locked in the 80's in every meaningful sense so his hair is pretty rad, or at least 80's appropriate.
Yet what if it's the most prosperous time in human history? Hundreds of years from now kids sitting in classrooms will be taught how these two blond stalwarts moulded the past in the utopia it is today... *sobs uncontrollably*
Didn't realise Britain was standing in the referendum
If we vote to Leave, Britain wins. If we vote to remain then at some point in the near future Britain will cease to be a sovereign nation, and will go quietly into the night.
A part of the Ukraine that is overwhelmingly Russian-speaking, whose people overwhelmingly wanted to be part of Russia and which has traditionally been part of Russia except after it was parcelled off to the Ukraine after a war last century. Oh, and triggered by increasing Western support and military presence around Russia.
Imagine if France had ended up with Essex after WWII - it was geographically still part of the UK, the people who lived there were not French barring a small minority, and there were regular protests by the people there against the French government which they didn't like. If one day we decided to just take it back would you similarly call that "warmongering"?
we're a net importer from the EU - they need us too... granted things might get spiteful but there is rather a lot at stake for EU countries in terms of trade too
strangely enough US students study overseas too without being EU members and UK students tend to have to buy insurance too since lots of EU countries don't operate along the lines of the NHS but will charge you for treatment. The european health insurance card benefits other EU nationals a lot more than it benefits us.
those are good things I agree but relatively minor and no reason why the UK govt can't maintain them
we can still share intelligence
we can still have extradition agreements
So tell me again why people want to leave it
lots of reasons from little englander ones through to concerns about the EU going much further than intended, loss of sovereignty, the opinion that we'd be better off negotiating trade deals on our own and/or maintaining the ability to impose tariffs etc.. react to things like the Chinese dumping cheap steel on the market, getting back control over fisheries, agriculture etc..
I'm undecided at the moment - the idea that one side is obviously right just doesn't seem to be the case
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There was an article on the BBC the other day about this in the EU and some don't cooperate with their own country
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35600736
If it was done against international law and with military action and not diplomatic action, then yes I probably would.
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[tinfoilhat]Their hair is suspiciously similar, herp, lizard beings are taking over, derp[/tinfoilhat]
There was an article on the BBC the other day about this in the EU and some don't cooperate with their own country
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35600736
... and we want these guys to be running our country? The most valuable source of intelligence we have is the 'five-eyes' alliance, the sort of thing that will become more and more difficult to maintain within the EU as we move towards a common foreign policy and intelligence service.
What national level agencies? Three words; ever closer union...
I was referring to a BREXIT - 'ever closer union' is rather irrelevant if we're not in the EU
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I fully respect whatever decision you make,But look..right now in the EU what honestly can you say its doing good for our country?..nothing...im talking for the ordinary folk out there.
All it will do staying in the EU right now is make life harder for decent hardworking folk,especially within the next 6-12 months (if we stay in) and a reformed EU,Nope..there will still be too many things that tie our hands.
Im definitely voting out and i know a ton of people that are too.
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You mean when the population in the east got scared of the fascist banderistas and declared independence and voted to join their Russian family members overwhelmingly and understandably?
you can still have some of those with out being a member.Won't matter if we leave we will still have to comply with EU regulations and laws. What will matter is we will no longer have a say in the creation or changing of regulations and laws.
At current we have freedom to travel, live and work across Europe but that will be harder if we leave the EU
We in the UK should reflect on whether our net contribution of £7bn out of total government expenditure of £695bn is good value;
57% of our trade comes from the EU
Cheaper air travel, Mobile phone charges
funded opportunities for young people to undertake study or work placements abroad; access to European health services
holiday entitlement
equal pay legislation
the right not to work more than a 48-hour week without overtime
strongest wildlife protection in the world
EU-funded research and industrial collaboration
EU representation in international forums
cross border policing to combat human trafficking, arms and drug smuggling; counter terrorism intelligence
European arrest warrant
investment across Europe contributing to better living standards and educational, social and cultural capital
the list goes on but those are some of the things we wouldn't have, without the EU.
So tell me again why people want to leave it
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