North Wales Police deliberately mow down dog

[UTmaniac]

To play devil's advocate, let's pretend it wasn't a dog and was instead, a different animal of roughly the same size (thus allowing the same destruction method).

Same reasons for destruction apply.

Do your feels towards it change?

Not for me, no, the police at the very least set up a warning ahead of where the animal is, telling road users to slow down.

While a qualified animal catcher for the animal in question makes their way to the scene.

 

[C64]

Police cant catch a dog humanely no great surprises there as they aren't the brightest people are they.Makes me wonder how they even pass their A levels or whatever is was required to join.

 

[StoutMeister]

no doubt this will come back to bite them.

Nice.

 

[Burnsy2023]

While a qualified animal catcher for the animal in question makes their way to the scene.

And where would the police find one of them at 3am?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

The answer was "Yes it is."

Because they cant say no

Your complaint will be assessed and will be taken further if they deem it of any value. Anyone can complain to the police about anything, whether the complaint will be deemed worthy of anything beyond a quick read over is a different matter.

 

[Thekwango]

To play devil's advocate, let's pretend it wasn't a dog and was instead, a different animal of roughly the same size (thus allowing the same destruction method).

Same reasons for destruction apply.

Do your feels towards it change?

no probably not, those that will place the health and safety of animals potentially above humans are a blinkered lot

 

[Jamesyboyjim]

Not for me, no, the police at the very least set up a warning ahead of where the animal is, telling road users to slow down.

While a qualified animal catcher for the animal in question makes their way to the scene.

How long will that take? in the meantime the dog has caused a fatal accident.

You are talking perfect world scenarios.

 

[Thekwango]

Well if it was a badger or a small deer, it certainly wouldn't have made such noise

it wouldn't make any noise if it was hit significantly hard enough!

 

[thebennyboy]

And where would the police find one of them at 3am?

A police dog handler maybe?

Would have had much more of an understanding of how the animal was likely to behave given the circumstances.

 

[UTmaniac]

How long will that take? in the meantime the dog has caused a fatal accident.

So a fatal accident has happened because road users have ignored the police warning ahead of where the animal is, in conjunction with any overhead traffic signals (which I think the A55 has, just like on say the M56 motorway)?

 

[Thekwango]

Police cant catch a dog humanely no great surprises there as they aren't the brightest people are they.Makes me wonder how they even pass their A levels or whatever is was required to join.

well done Dr Doolittle, so there is always a safe and humane method to catch any dog in any situation? maybe 'whisper' them into a nice safe portable kennel can you?

 

[Rroff]

Police cant catch a dog humanely no great surprises there as they aren't the brightest people are they.Makes me wonder how they even pass their A levels or whatever is was required to join.

On my way back from work once there was a greyhound (well a grey dog that was hound like) trotting down the middle of the road completely oblivious to the traffic around it - nothing I could do to stop it - it just acted like I wasn't even there - fortunately someone stopped who actually knew how to handle dogs :S

EDIT: Apparently it was "tan and white hound type".

 

[thebennyboy]

So a fatal accident has happened because road users have ignored the police warning ahead of where the animal is, in conjunction with any overhead traffic signals (which I think the A55 has, just like on say the M56 motorway)?

There are many dot-matrix signs along that segment of road, where the incident occured near Llanfairfechan. Anyone claiming it takes ages to get these signs activated is probably wrong, the police force would have had a method of contacting Traffic Wales who monitor the road 24/7.

 

[Burnsy2023]

A police dog handler maybe?

Would have had much more of an understanding of how the animal was likely to behave given the circumstances.

Ok, and how do you know that one didn't attend? What if one wasn't available? Then what?

 

[thebennyboy]

Ok, and how do you know that one didn't attend? What if one wasn't available? Then what?

Because a police dog handler would have handled it properly and removed the dog safely. I can't answer as to whether one was available or not as i don't know that. If the officers had handled it properly it wouldn't have been intentionally ran over and an officer wouldn't have been apparently bitten. And as to whether a complaint is justified or not, that isn't for you to decide or judge. The fact it's already under investigation by the force's Professional Standards Department says they aren't sure it was dealt with properly either.

I think there is a conflict of interest here considering your profession and that you're likely to be unhappy about someone wanting to complain about a force's conduct.

 

[fatiain]

A police dog handler maybe?

Would have had much more of an understanding of how the animal was likely to behave given the circumstances.

Who may be on the other side of the force area? Or committed at another job?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

How long will that take? in the meantime the dog has caused a fatal accident.

You are talking perfect world scenarios.

Fatal accident leads to assessment of police officers involved as incompetent that chaos and death resulted as a result of a dog running around in the middle of the night. Media go wild and tons of money is spent on investigating why a group of officers could not prevent incident and just waited around for hours until a situation occurred. Results in money spent, time wasted and possible loss of work hours in an important role of society.

I dont particularly agree or disagree with the result. What i definitely disagree with is this mob and pitchfork mentality disguised as concern for the well being of animals. Really is no point crying over spilt milk.

 

[fatiain]

Fatal accident leads to assessment of police officers involved as incompetent that chaos and death resulted as a result of a dog running around in the middle of the night. Media go wild and tons of money is spent on investigating why a group of officers could not prevent incident and just waited around for hours until a situation occurred. Results in money spent, time wasted and possible loss of work hours in an important role of society.

I dont particularly agree or disagree with the result. What i definitely disagree with is this mob and pitchfork mentality disguised as concern for the well being of animals. Really is no point crying over spilt milk.

+1 to this.

 

[Washout]

It's dark, they're on their own with a dog running around an open motorway.
Two vehicles have already swerved to avoid it. They've tried getting out and getting it but been bitten, it's a hunting dog, scared and agitated.

Getting messages up on boards, closing the road (both directions mind), calling animal specialists with tranqs or whatever at 3am is going to take time.

While this is being put in place dog runs into oncoming traffic, car swerves hits another and causes a fatal accident. Your parents are inside.

Would you rather they'd killed the dog now?

They picked the lesser of two evils. They had to weigh up a dogs life vs all the disruption and potential for an accident (which clearly was quite high).

Some moronic folk seem to be portraying the policemen as blood thirsty scumbags who're high fiving eachother over what they had to do. I'd rather think as dog owners themselves they've woken up rather upset at what they were forced to do.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Because a police dog handler would have handled it properly and removed the dog safely.

You seem very sure of that considering you know so little about what happened. Dog handlers don't take a Dr Dolittle course....