used car dealer issues

I don't think that's sufficient to prove your case. Nothing is factual, there is no concrete evidence as to what's causing the problems you describe and whether they could have been there before you bought the car.

You need something that explicitely says "this car is not operating correctly because of problem x caused by y".
 
Adam said:
I don't think that's sufficient to prove your case. Nothing is factual, there is no concrete evidence as to what's causing the problems you describe and whether they could have been there before you bought the car.

You need something that explicitely says "this car is not operating correctly because of problem x caused by y".
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I think the problem here is that the only way to 100% prove that is a bottom end rebuild?

The diagnostics are quite clear cut and point to a recall bulletin. Surely that in and of itself is quite evidential?
 
Adam said:
I don't think that's sufficient to prove your case. Nothing is factual, there is no concrete evidence as to what's causing the problems you describe and whether they could have been there before you bought the car.

You need something that explicitely says "this car is not operating correctly because of problem x caused by y".
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If Nissan only said if x amount of oil was used over X amount of time and this is the fix.

then how am i meant to prove it? iv said they take the car and monitor it them self and they seem to come up with excuses. its clearly going some where at an unacceptable rate only other way it to take the car apart or remove the CATS and see the oil / smoke pouring out
 
here's a couple of emails that abbey sent me.
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so the plot thickens, a member of overclockers recognised the salesman's name, and advised me to just google him, and s2000 and its not great nor are the reviews and story's, all that seem to fall in-line with the fobbing off that iv had so far. this is not looking good.
 
to extend on the comment above, i emailed the dealer and said i had come accross this information and that it didnt give me great confidence, i guss he felt it was uncalled for.. well he actually said that his name is tarnished by the lies and fails to see what they have done to warrant the comment. hes called me a lire a few times over several things such as conversations with people in his office when he was not present and said that he is not convinced there is an issue. despite me saying take it and test it your self .. I did say that i will make my own judgement but i dont want to become one of the horror storys. All in all i have upset them but equally they have to me with the customer service / after sales. Granted im not helping my self , but i am only presenting facts and informations from different sources.
 
Smart move !

You seem intent on making a difficult situation even worse by deliberately antagonising the salesman. If ever there was a way not to handle a dispute this thread is it. Added to which much of the 'advice' in this thread is poor.

Just leaving it to your credit card company to resolve is your best bet IMO.

Read up on your consumer rights under the CRA 2015.

And get decent free advice over the phone via a consumer credit helpline.
 
mike gunnz said:
Smart move !

You seem intent on making a difficult situation even worse by deliberately antagonising the salesman. If ever there was a way not to handle a dispute this thread is it. Added to which much of the 'advice' in this thread is poor.

Just leaving it to your credit card company to resolve is your best bet IMO.

Read up on your consumer rights under the CRA 2015.

And get decent free advice over the phone via a consumer credit helpline.
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Its part of who i am not to keep my mouth shut if i have something to say nice or other wise, they have a responsibility regardless. Im 99% sure its going to be down to the CC to sort any way.
 
OK - just dont complain or be surprised when the targets of your anger refuse to cooperate then :)

CC company resolution route is a smart move. Let them take the pain of resolving this with the dodgy dealership. Section 75 is a powerful tool - I used it last year when resolving issues with my partner's car purchase.
 
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mike gunnz said:
OK - just dont complain or be surprised when the targets of your anger refuse to cooperate then :)

CC company resolution route is a smart move. Let them take the pain of resolving this with the dodgy dealership. Section 75 is a powerful tool - I used it last year when resolving issues with my partner's car purchase.
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from what i have found out, hes had several other car company's that have been shut down. iv gone through with the section 75 stuff and the CC are looking over the info i have sent them.
 
Bit late to the party, but you've ignored the advice given here which was not to get personal and keep everything factual.

On the report front, personally I don't think the reports done you any good. As others have said it's just simply suggesting 'maybe' and from the way I read the oil/spark plug the report seems to suggest that the oil is on the outside body of the plug hence the mention of the rocker cover.

You have 2 important facts which you need to concentrate on, the oil consumption and the original or not original body kit so keep all replies/comments focused on them. If you can also prove that the bodykit is not original as advertised then you'll have a slightly stronger footing.
 
IAmATeaf said:
Bit late to the party, but you've ignored the advice given here which was not to get personal and keep everything factual.

On the report front, personally I don't think the reports done you any good. As others have said it's just simply suggesting 'maybe' and from the way I read the oil/spark plug the report seems to suggest that the oil is on the outside body of the plug hence the mention of the rocker cover.

You have 2 important facts which you need to concentrate on, the oil consumption and the original or not original body kit so keep all replies/comments focused on them. If you can also prove that the bodykit is not original as advertised then you'll have a slightly stronger footing.
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with the oil and gasket, its leaking in to the spark plug tube, they have rubber round seals on the rocker cover. the oil consumption is for them to see for them self's. It has been factual I just stated my cons-urns
 
[TW]Fox;29213514 said:
That's lovely but it does now mean that all the bridges to this dealer are now on fire and this is only being sorted legally, if it ever gets sorted.
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The attitude they had to begin with and the 51Page thread on s2ki about him and his company lead me to believe that it would end this way regardless
 
This just further reinforces my view that when buying cars you either buy from a private seller, who you can judge and pay less than retail prices for and know where you stand, or you buy from a main dealer as an approved used.

The random independents are just a faff.
 
paradigm said:
Did your homework before using this cowboy then?
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This information only came up when using the Directors name. but other wise yes, some information suggested from yesterdays lime light that any negative reviews was quickly removed , even one of his ex employees was saying how it was all run and how he was a con artist and a bully.
 
[TW]Fox;29213665 said:
This just further reinforces my view that when buying cars you either buy from a private seller, who you can judge and pay less than retail prices for and know where you stand, or you buy from a main dealer as an approved used.

The random independents are just a faff.
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This. I too will likely only buy from a main dealer or from a decent private sale from now on.
 
Jono8 said:
This. I too will likely only buy from a main dealer or from a decent private sale from now on.
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Same here, having been silly enough to buy a very lemony lemon from a small indie dealer, and a slightly lemony lemon from a dodgy private seller. :p
 
Jono8 said:
This. I too will likely only buy from a main dealer or from a decent private sale from now on.
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I doubt most main dealers are more willing to just cough up than your small independent. You could argue that it's less personal to them, but I imagine that any car dealer, be they main dealer or independent will be less than happy to lose thousands over a new engine or whatever other expensive situation you can imagine.

My feeling is it's just luck of the draw. Same as it is if you're hiring a local tradesman to do some work. Some are good, some are bad. You give repeat business to the good ones.

Edit - I've been ripped off by a main dealer in the past, while an Indie with a good reputation did a 1k repair on the 5k car I'd just bought off him without batting an eye.
 
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