Doctors urge schools to ban tackling in rugby

We had a Welsh PE teacher and I was the big kid. He used to froth with joy everytime I got the ball and inevitably scored. Yes it was always a smaller kid that tried to stop you the most.

I had a Welsh PE teacher as well. One PE lesson instead of doing actual PE he made us all watch the Wales vs England Five Nations match from the year Wales won the Triple Crown :p
 
If people think its dangerous, make rugby lessons contact by default with an opt-out option for the kids that dont want to do it, they can spend the lesson doing cardio drills or something.

This way there is no escape for the lazy kids.


I played rugby and enjoyed it. I did probably 4-6 hours a week through school and saw only one or two injuries which to be honest were the fault of negligence more than anything.

They'll claim it's against their human rights, or something.
 
My experience of schoolboy rugby is that kids will avoid putting themselves in danger. They aren't going to tackle if they think they'll get hurt - they will tackle if they think it's relatively safe - depends on the specific situation during play. I used to get more cuts and scrapes from football than rugby

maybe if you're talking about younger kids from across the whole year group being introduced to the game during PE/games

but when played competitively, as a teenager, against other schools etc.. no chance
 
Rugby is only an excuse for the PE teacher to get in physical contact with the boys.

How stupid. You shouldn't have flirted with him, then. ;)

Rugby is a cool sport, and it's fun to play, unlike football which is 22 men chasing a bag of wind round a field then suddenly collapsing on the floor in floods of tears whenever another player comes within 6 feet of them.

(Professional football, anyway).

I played rugby from the age of about 11 to 16, then it randomly stopped just around the time of GCSEs. I was never particularly good at it. I'm woeful at kicking, was about 1/2 the size of the people I was tackling, but could outpace most of them. I was pretty good at passing and catching.
I got hurt, by other lads trying to mash my head in a scrum, or grabbing the neck of my shirt and yanking it back to tackle me... and sprains and whatnot.

I'd do it all again.
 
They'll claim it's against their human rights, or something.

To run in PE?

Just title it a 'get Britain fit' program. We did running drills every PE lesson to warm up/punishment/warm down/increase speed/increase endurance.

Surely they still do things like 5000m races and stuff in PE these days.

Could make it a mixture of drills but cardio needs to be included to put off the pansies who are just looking to sit down for an hour while other pupils do something productive.
 
If people think its dangerous, make rugby lessons contact by default with an opt-out option for the kids that dont want to do it, they can spend the lesson doing cardio drills or something.

This way there is no escape for the lazy kids.

or they just play hockey or football etc.. instead - that was what they did at my school anyway

PE sessions were just 40 mins in a gym or playing badminton etc.. in the sports hall with your class

but 'games' was a whole afternoon and involved the whole year group so you'd get a bunch of Rugby games and some Hockey games being played simultaneously with kids grouped by ability...

The kids who played hockey were either kids who'd been selected for school team or kids whose parents had written in to say they didn't want them playing Rugby... unfortunately these were mostly the fat kids, the scrawny ones, the ones most prone to bullying etc.. and were often mocked further as a result.
 
I would say let them play another game of their choice but it just gives them more opportunity to skulk about on the side of the pitch while their classmates play a proper game.
 
To run in PE?

Just title it a 'get Britain fit' program. We did running drills every PE lesson to warm up/punishment/warm down/increase speed/increase endurance.

Surely they still do things like 5000m races and stuff in PE these days.

Could make it a mixture of drills but cardio needs to be included to put off the pansies who are just looking to sit down for an hour while other pupils do something productive.

At my nephew's school (I'm sure, though I could be imagining this having read it elsewhere... but I'm sure my sister told me). They've pretty much stopped sports day as kids got upset when they came last. So everyone wins a prize for taking part.

They only went up to 1500m when I was at school and that was 20 years ago. I have always been a terrible runner, but a good sprinter. 1-200m was my limit at anything I actually WANTED to do. 400m at a push. I think I ran 800 and 1500 once or twice in my life at school. I think I maybe jogged for 10m then walked the rest of the way.

They don't even DO rugby at all at my local schools nowadays; in fact there's a drive to get it reintroduced being led by my neighbour's son.
They banned hurdles when I was at school because some kid fell over them (didn't hurt himself) and his parents complained and pressurised the governors somehow.

They should do the bleep test and gymanstics and everything else they used to do. It should be a core subject, like Maths or English.
 
Eh? Why would football or hockey somehow involve sulking about?

Because there's always one kid who is so terrible at it they never get passed the ball. I know this because it used to be me :D
 
Tackling never seemed to be the problem when I was at school, the problem was poor refereeing. Kids got away with kinds of naughtiness (stamping, punching).
 
Eh? Why would football or hockey somehow involve sulking about?

Probably because there's not enough teachers to keep an eye on them.

We had 2 teachers for ~60 boys in PE lessons. A 50:50 split is ok, but if you get 10 who don't want to get involved in the rugby, then you can't easily staff that.
 
Eh? Why would football or hockey somehow involve sulking about?

Not about the sport, its more that if you were a kid who didn't want to participate due to laziness then they would be the sort of kid who would just stay out of the way and slowly walk up and down the pitch for the PE lesson rather than get involved and build skills. There is always a few kids like that in each class. What we don't want to do is let kids choose not to participate because its difficult or don't want to and using 'danger' as an excuse.
 
Not about the sport, its more that if you were a kid who didn't want to participate due to laziness then they would be the sort of kid who would just stay out of the way and slowly walk up and down the pitch for the PE lesson rather than get involved and build skills. There is always a few kids like that in each class. What we don't want to do is let kids choose not to participate because its difficult or don't want to and using 'danger' as an excuse.

That doesn't make sense an objection to being able to opt out of Rugby and instead play Hockey/Football - there isn't anything inherent to Rugby that means a fat lazy kid is suddenly going to be forced into greater participation as opposed to if he were playing football or hockey instead.
 
Probably because there's not enough teachers to keep an eye on them.

We had 2 teachers for ~60 boys in PE lessons. A 50:50 split is ok, but if you get 10 who don't want to get involved in the rugby, then you can't easily staff that.

I guess at a smaller school that could be an issue, you might then need to enforce a 50:50 split

we had more like 120 in each year so wasn't as much of an issue - could have 3 Rugby games and one hockey game going on at the same time
 
That doesn't make sense an objection to being able to opt out of Rugby and instead play Hockey/Football - there isn't anything inherent to Rugby that means a fat lazy kid is suddenly going to be forced into greater participation as opposed to if he were playing football or hockey instead.

You are right in saying that there isn't anything stopping a kid being lazy in rugby but the other kids will often target those avoid getting involved one way or another from my experience. Also rugby generally is supervised closer by the teacher and was harder to get away with not doing anything. Sure you can pretend to fumble the ball if it gets passed down the line to you but that still normally results in a late tackle BECAUSE the other kids know your an easy target.
 
yeah that will teach the kid if it is their parents who have written in rather than the kid being a wuss....

I liked playing Rugby but I don't see why it should be compulsory, no reason why another team sport can't be played instead
 
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