Doctors urge schools to ban tackling in rugby

I guess at a smaller school that could be an issue, you might then need to enforce a 50:50 split

we had more like 120 in each year so wasn't as much of an issue - could have 3 Rugby games and one hockey game going on at the same time

Depends how it's set up I guess. We had a similar number in each year to you (approx 120 boys, 120 girls), but only half did PE at any one time. Sports facilities were limited.
 
Kit them out in American Football protection gear, minus the helmet.

Studies have shown that wearing protection gear makes you feel like you can take bigger hits and will therefore hit harder. Playing without gear (excluding mouth guard) is probably best.

I'm all for allowing kids to continue playing full contact rugby. I noticed they mention scrums as one of the factors which they didn't like. I agree, Rugby Union should be banned outright. Only the one true rugby should be allowed - Rugby League :D
 
I think they should stop the kids wearing metal studded boots...

When i was in school i tackled too low (hey i was only 12...) and i got a very spiky boot to the face.

My cheek was tore in a place and i still have the scar running down to my chin from when that lip / cheek was flapping in the wind
 
I liked playing Rugby but I don't see why it should be compulsory, no reason why another team sport can't be played instead

No reason?

What about not enough PE teachers to supervise games?

yeah that will teach the kid if it is their parents who have written in rather than the kid being a wuss....

What is so bad about a bit of running...

It will teach the kid that coddling does not make it any easier on him and if the parents listen to his complaints itl teach them too. Either way, the kid wont be opting his kid out of rugby when he has kids of his own
 
a bit of running isn't a team sport... which is something that is probably useful for kids to be exposed too

sure if a school is badly run and can only spare one teacher for games then that is an issue, but then the issue there isn't opting out of Rugby but **** organisation on the part of the school
 
Running isn't a team sport but a deterrent to opting out and you will find that many schools cant spare the PE teachers these days. We had four PE teachers at my school, two for the girls and two for us. The boys would then be split in two again to play different sports and they will be split again to play different games. We had a year of about 200 pupils and it is more common for there to be a lower student to pupil ratio now than then.
 
Still makes no sense as an objection - if you're splitting into groups then you can handle playing different games

as for being a 'deterrent', you seem to be completely missing the point that some parents might object on safety grounds but then would want to punish/deter their kids for this by making them run laps and/or clean kit...
 
When I was at school (early 90's) we played touch rugby at school, there was a full rugby team for the school though but in PE we just did touch rugby, that seems reasonable to me as kids don't know what they are doing with tackling and can harm themselves/others if they just go diving in stupidly.
 
What the hell is happening to this country.

Sport is the maker of all, our old headmaster was a Welshman, A Welshman in **** North Notts mining town in the 70s/80s. We sang and we played rugby and looking back it was chuffin brilliant.

I remember one assembly and two guys got called up front, both with black eyes (great shiners) One got a significant dressing down in-front of the entire school for fighting the other was made a hero as he got his injury playing hockey I will never forget him saying wear your sporting injury's as a badge of pride like a Victoria cross. Being taught how to take a tackle and give a tackle is part of the game, IT IS THE GAME !!!, Touch rugby wtf is that all about, kids these days need a 6 month boot camp.

I would have loved a skate park back in my day, but instead we had to fill our time of playing army with Roman candles and air-bomb repeaters, Hide and seek with catapults, jumping off bridges onto moving freight trains filled with sand/coal the list goes on.

Doctors should stick to what they know best, fixing people not bemoaning how people get broken regarding sport.
 
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Not missing the point, i think it would be totally fine for kids to run all lesson if thats what their parents are okay with, i did loads of running in PE. If you talked while the teacher talk you would run laps for half the lesson.

As for splitting into groups to handle different games, since the opt outs for rugby would only be a small fraction of the pupils, you would either have to force kids that do want to play rugby to play another sport to accommodate the ones that don't or have the four kids that opted out play a very lonely football match... which incidentally involves loads of running because there is no one to pass to :p
 
Do people ever wonder why we as a nation are so average on an international stage in various sports?

Problem starts at school/ grass roots...
 
Not missing the point, i think it would be totally fine for kids to run all lesson if thats what their parents are okay with, i did loads of running in PE. If you talked while the teacher talk you would run laps for half the lesson.

it is completely missing the point - you talked of a 'deterrent' for the kids when the issue is just as easily an objective choice from the parent on safety grounds - it isn't down to the school to deter parents from making those choices

As for splitting into groups to handle different games, since the opt outs for rugby would only be a small fraction of the pupils, you would either have to force kids that do want to play rugby to play another sport to accommodate the ones that don't or have the four kids that opted out play a very lonely football match... which incidentally involves loads of running because there is no one to pass to :p

no you wouldn't - if you offered football you'd likely find quite a few kids happy to chose that option, not just the kids whose parents opt out of rugby, the assumption that everyone would play Rugby except for the minority with parent opt outs is very likely flawed
 
Do people ever wonder why we as a nation are so average on an international stage in various sports?

Problem starts at school/ grass roots...

But but think of the the teachers.....

Completely agree, grass roots and moral fibre, bring back the cane and police brutality.

Also there should be no choice....

A term for everyone playing rugby, a term for hockey, a term for athletics.

Football can be left out it is supported well enough out of school or playtime if they still call it that.
 
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Do people ever wonder why we as a nation are so average on an international stage in various sports?

Problem starts at school/ grass roots...

For me it's nothing to do with schools, it's more to do with clubs that you would send your kids to outside of school, that is where you develop a talent in a certain sport not 1 hour a week at school with a general PE teacher.

If little Johnny enjoys Rugby and shows an interest in it you send him off to an out of school club (weekend/evening) to further his development in that area, this is where he learns all about the game, how it's played and the rules of the game.

School is where you can get a taster of this sport and then you go into a club to develop.
 
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no you wouldn't - if you offered football you'd likely find quite a few kids happy to chose that option, not just the kids whose parents opt out of rugby, the assumption that everyone would play Rugby except for the minority with parent opt outs is very likely flawed

What do you do if the majority want to play football one year or visa versa?

Do you let people opt out of rugby and not football or do you let them opt out of whichever and waste teachers staffing a small group while risking safety of a larger group by spreading the teacher thin there?

I dont see why it is such a big deal to make them run drills instead of contact matches. We ran drills for about 50% of the time did contact matches 25% of the time and touch matches other other 25%. Most schools cant accommodate your PE ideal.
 
Meh, concussions as a kid can **** your life up if the teacher is not properly aware. Other injuries are more obvious so I would argue that making sure the teachers are properly trained in the risks would be better than just banning all sports that pose a risk.

There's a balance. I however can take or leave rugby, but it should be an option, not compulsory.
 
or they just play hockey or football etc.. instead - that was what they did at my school anyway

Haha, not sure that would be a solution, I picked up injuries far more often (and more serious) playing hockey than I ever did in rugby! :p

A term for everyone playing rugby, a term for hockey, a term for athletics.

Yeah, this is what we had; rugby in the summer on the grass pitch, hockey on the gravel pitch in the winter when the grass was a pool of mud.
 
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