Bristol firm plans to give women unpaid time off for periods

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Thoughts on this? Personally if the firm is this flexible for all employees (men included) with various issues then I don't see too much of a problem, but I'm sure like everything, some people will take the mick.



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I'm not a woman so I don't know how bad the pain is. If it's an issue for women and the work flow allows it then I don't see why it should be an issue. It's not paid leave (which I think would be unfair towards men) but flexible time.

The article makes a good point though, if it sees widespread adoption they may seem less employable. Between child birth and requiring flexible time 1/4 of the month a man would just seem like the simple, easy, option.
 
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Snypa said:
I'm not a woman so I don't know how bad the pain is. If it's an issue for women and the work flow allows it then I don't see why it should be an issue. It's not paid leave (which I think would be unfair towards men) but flexible time.
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then everyone including men should get the same flexible time options. Women want equality but only on their terms. This is horse crap.
 
Some women can have it pretty bad from time to time. I would have thought that if it is so bad you need to take time off any company that is okay with you taking a sick day would be fine with it. My Missus is on the pill and doesn't get them much but when she does she sometimes has to stop everything she is doing and crawl onto a bed or sofa and fetal position it for a bit.

I have seen some ridiculous pain med prescriptions given for period pains, the sort of stuff you would give to patience recovering from considerable surgery.

Also the firm in OP mentioned time would be made up later. I am sure men in that same firm can pick up their work later if they need to take a sick day due to something or other.

Article title is misleading in that it implies they get time off when they just get to change shifts at a job which can be flexible when they are in too much pain to work. I don't think its news worthy but its titled to illicit reaction.
 
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wildman said:
then everyone including men should get the same flexible time options. Women want equality but only on their terms. This is horse crap.
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There is a point in there, such that women want to be treated the same as men although they are different, and that is okay. I think modern feminism is the cause of that though and not women in general.

I personally would not feel disadvantaged as a man, just grateful I don't have periods.
 
wildman said:
then everyone including men should get the same flexible time options. Women want equality but only on their terms. This is horse crap.
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Do men need time off for period pain?

If only everyone could work for a decent company, that allow you flexibility and trust you to make the right decision.
 
Snypa said:
There is a point in there, such that women want to be treated the same as men although they are different, and that is okay. I think modern feminism is the cause of that though and not women in general.

I personally would not feel disadvantaged as a man, just grateful I don't have periods.
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Men can take sick days if they need to?

If the firm is flexible with hours, i am sure they can make it up another time like in my job. This is no different but the context changed to an ailment specific to women. :confused:

Dont see how this is unfair
 
platypus said:
Do men need time off for period pain?
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ball ache from the footy game the night before where you took a full punt to the jacobs.

It should count as sick leave and not flexible time. All workes regardless of sex should be treated the same, thats the mnatra the mumsnet brigade roll out, but now they are the same but different.........

go home
 
wildman said:
ball ache from the footy game the night before where you took a full punt to the jacobs.

It should count as sick leave and not flexible time. All workes regardless of sex should be treated the same, thats the mnatra the mumsnet brigade roll out, but now they are the same but different.........

go home
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Making up hours due to being unwell is down to the discretion of the company. If they are a company that is okay with their female employees doing that, they would be okay with male employees doing that, given the reason is good enough.

I have worked in plenty of companies that are more than happy for people to make up their hours or would rather people did than just taking a sick day.

If you were kicked in the nads so hard it put you out the next day, no reasonable business would make you come in or take action against you for doing so.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Men can take sick days if they need to?

If the firm is flexible with hours, i am sure they can make it up another time like in my job. This is no different but the context changed to an ailment specific to women. :confused:

Dont see how this is unfair
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I agree with you but also you are assuming allot here. Nothing in your second paragraph is mentioned in the article (ie we don't know if men have access to flexible time).
 
wildman said:
ball ache from the footy game the night before where you took a full punt to the jacobs.

It should count as sick leave and not flexible time. All workes regardless of sex should be treated the same, thats the mnatra the mumsnet brigade roll out, but now they are the same but different.........

go home
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Making time up is down to the discretion of the company. This is not legislation, and it's unlikely to come in to force as such any time soon, so what actually is your worry? That someone is having a debilitating problem addressed?

Perhaps you'd prefer it if it only applies if the woman suffers from dysmenorrhea? In a self selecting policy it should do in theory, so there isn't really a problem there anyway is there?
 
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No but its ridiculous to assume the women have the freedom to flexible time and the men don't or that flexible time is only available to ailments to do with periods. The article just focus' on period pains.

I would understand this article as saying that the business recognises period pains as a legitimate excuse for being unwell depending on the severity rather than special treatment to women, despite the writing to illicit controversy.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
No but its ridiculous to assume the women have the freedom to flexible time and the men don't or that flexible time is only available to ailments to do with periods. The article just focus' on period pains.

I would understand this article as saying that the business recognises period pains as a legitimate excuse for being unwell depending on the severity rather than special treatment to women, despite the writing to illicit controversy.
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I agree, the article doesn't really give anything worth discussing (although here I am discussing it lol)
 
Flexible time? Not a problem
Though why not just let everyone have a couple of days flexi time?
 
The owner clearly states details will be worked out after a seminar

The link to the seminar states:
"While this conversation is focused on the menstrual cycle, it forms part of a larger debate about honouring cycles in general – circadian, ultradian, seasonal etc., and cyclical consciousness as a model of sustainability – individual and organisational."

So it's not women getting special treatment as wildman seems to want to think (I'd hate to be your wife/girlfriend)
 
People like to feel victimised and a headline is enough to drive some people to vocalise it.

Its not like they are even getting time off, they still have to make up the hours later.
 
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