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Direct-X 12 will destroy PC gaming. This is the most important tech article you'll ever read.

Panos said:
Cannot get the article or the discussion above.
Too much mud just to write something for the sake of

As for DX12, many of you above, sneered on Mantle and how was pontless and should die with AMD.
Now you go against MS and DX12 praising Vulcan.. Before you reply to this make sure you have deleted yOur old posts, because i will quote them here.
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They've hobbled DX12 so they can push their own agenda. That's not a good thing. MS avoided that is the past, but now the precedent is set.

Mantle was very important, but it was proprietary. It would never be adopted by the wider industry in that form. That was never the intention anyway, it was always a stick to poke the industry with, and it worked very well for that. It's the basis on which Vulcan was built.
 
PC gaming has always needed saving......mostly from Microsoft ! :eek:

It's really simple....don't panic, things can and do change.....If it's not to your liking, don't buy from the store.

Let's see what happens.
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AMDMatt said:
FreeSync is working and enabled in Ashes of The singularity, and will be available in Hitman, Total War Hammer and Deus Ex and they are all DX12 titles.

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That ad doesn't mention anything about MS Store though?
 
Panos said:
Cannot get the article or the discussion above.
Too much mud just to write something for the sake of

As for DX12, many of you above, sneered on Mantle and how was pontless and should die with AMD.
Now you go against MS and DX12 praising Vulcan.. Before you reply to this make sure you have deleted yOur old posts, because i will quote them here.
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We do have a lot to thank Dice for, maybe they knew.
 
maonayze said:
PC gaming has always needed saving......mostly from Microsoft ! :eek:

It's really simple....don't panic, things can and do change.....If it's not to your liking, don't buy from the store.

Let's see what happens.
:(
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Allow me to share with you a vision of the future:

Before long everyone uses the MS Store so publishers see no point supporting other services. Others are paid off by MS. With the Store becoming a monopoly, no publishers bother with true vsync, graphics option menus and eventually mouse & keyboard support goes away too.


Basically, a few smart people can't do jack against the billions of dumbarses mindlessly using the Store. The same people who pay to have Angry Birds installed.
 
I'm very much a stubborn person and I actually quite like it. If anything was to threaten my PC Gaming like this article I'd quite happily jack it in. I'd keep playing my back catalogue then whittle it down to eventually stopping.
 
You don't have to be smart to simply read what the limitations being imposed by the store are and refuse to accept them by boycotting the store till they remove them.

The mindless followers in the Gears thread who are buying that game because 'it doesn't have problems' says one user who detailed the problem he was having, who can't see that supporting one game that works within a bad frame work encourages MS that their framework is fine. Sure modding isn't a big deal to Gears, but if 10mil people buy Gears then maybe Fallout 4 makers are encouraged and stick Fallout 5 on Windows store and then we have a mod free version of Fallout 5 in the future.

The platform stucks, DO NOT SUPPORT IT until they remove these limitations. Buying a game that isn't effected by the limitations doesn't prevent them existing but supporting a platform with those limitations will have knock on effects for games you want to play in the future that will be effected by these limitations.

The consumer has all the power, if everyone stopped buying, even frankly if 20% of people instead of buying Gears sent MS an e-mail saying why they wouldn't it would almost certainly change their attitude.... but consumers consistently ignore the power they wield and buy for today while not giving a seconds thought to the consequences down the line.
 
drunkenmaster said:
You don't have to be smart to simply read what the limitations being imposed by the store are and refuse to accept them by boycotting the store till they remove them.

The mindless followers in the Gears thread who are buying that game because 'it doesn't have problems' says one user who detailed the problem he was having, who can't see that supporting one game that works within a bad frame work encourages MS that their framework is fine. Sure modding isn't a big deal to Gears, but if 10mil people buy Gears then maybe Fallout 4 makers are encouraged and stick Fallout 5 on Windows store and then we have a mod free version of Fallout 5 in the future.

The platform stucks, DO NOT SUPPORT IT until they remove these limitations. Buying a game that isn't effected by the limitations doesn't prevent them existing but supporting a platform with those limitations will have knock on effects for games you want to play in the future that will be effected by these limitations.

The consumer has all the power, if everyone stopped buying, even frankly if 20% of people instead of buying Gears sent MS an e-mail saying why they wouldn't it would almost certainly change their attitude.... but consumers consistently ignore the power they wield and buy for today while not giving a seconds thought to the consequences down the line.
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This is probably the first and only post I'll ever agree with you on.
 
I wont be buying any game from the windows store. If I want a game exclusive to the windows store I'll pirate it. I have been proud of myself for not pirating a game for over 2 years but I might need to in the future.

I like having games on Steam/Origin and I can cope with uPlay, but windows store... no.
 
no_1_dave said:
I wont be buying any game from the windows store. If I want a game exclusive to the windows store I'll pirate it. I have been proud of myself for not pirating a game for over 2 years but I might need to in the future.

I like having games on Steam/Origin and I can cope with uPlay, but windows store... no.
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Agree, but MS store games haven't been hacked yet?
 
Hasn't been hacked and un hackable are two different things. Its like Mac users allways saying ohh Macs dont get viruses. NOoooo Its cos Mac users are such a low user base compared to other OS that there isn't hardly any malicious code or viruses being created for macs.

Same here hardly anyone buys from MS Store so whats point hacking it? They will stick to where the larger user base it. Simples.
 
Orangey said:
Basically, a few smart people can't do jack against the billions of dumbarses mindlessly using the Store. The same people who pay to have Angry Birds installed.
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A few smart people started using business equipment to play games because they didn't want to play super Mario on a locked platform. That's how the whole PC gaming thing got started.

It's amazing what a few smart people can become..
 
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