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You do realise that this happens all the time in nature right?
He's been told that twice already. He doesn't accept it apparently.
You do realise that this happens all the time in nature right?
The tories look out for their handshaking rich school boy friends, That is all that matters to them and I am always baffled why educated English ordindary men and women vote for them.
Oh lets put every penny we make in wages away for a rainy day just in case you fall ill, it's not as simple as that is it.
Inherited wealth is the biggest barrier to social mobility in this country and yet no government has done anything about it.
Working people on PAYE are easy targets and get shafted, I'm sorry that the government is now looking at disability benefits but for a lot of families they have had their child benefit taken away - costing thousands - and may also loose some benefits on pension savings. So working hard doesn't necessarily pay.
Yup, especially War Pensions as they made the decision to join the armed forces. Their fault.
It's not at all "reasonable" to make an assumption based on lies told to you. Reminds me of:-
http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/british-public-perceptions-wrong-important-issues/
Which includes most people believing £24 out of £100 paid in benefits is fraudulently claimed, when the reality is it's just 70p out of £100. It actually costs more to run the governments fraud system (FRAIMS - which I worked on) than it ever saves from preventing fraud, such is the governments paranoia about giving "someone something for nothing". A better way to save money (which was actually proposed by Hewlett Packard but flatly refused) would be to introduce a flat rate benefit with simpler qualification rules. You could pay more money to more people and still reduce the benefits bill as the cost of administration would be magnitudes smaller. It currently costs around £7.5billion to administer all DWP benefits. I don't have the figures to hand for how much it costs to administer tax credits.
It would be "reasonable" if you made the assumption based on your own research however.
Working people on PAYE are easy targets and get shafted, I'm sorry that the government is now looking at disability benefits but for a lot of families they have had their child benefit taken away - costing thousands - and may also loose some benefits on pension savings. So working hard doesn't necessarily pay.
Stealing the wealth of the dead has no place in a civilised society.
Critical illness and personal injury insurance is cheap enough though.

means tested or whatever they call it is a load of crap, they tried to get her to look for work she can hardly get out of bed 
The dead can't own anything so it cant be stealing. I think it would be far more civilised that money be used from inherited wealth to give everyone a better chance, so there is genuine equality of opportunity.
No I am not, Please don't say something so utterly moronic.
School friend of mine worked right up until he was 32 and now he's in a wheel chair for the remainder of his life with very limited movement and his funds get cut off.
The heroin addict next door is the scum of the earth who routinely robs from shops in the city centre and has beaten up her daughter more than once yet gets 300 notes shoved in her hand once per week.
The dead can't own anything so it cant be stealing. I think it would be far more civilised that money be used from inherited wealth to give everyone a better chance, so there is genuine equality of opportunity.

Stealing the wealth of the dead has no place in a civilised society.
The final step of ownership is to decide who owns it after you, inheritance tax takes that right away, or forces you to make those decisions much earlier to prevent the government helping itself.
Neither does abandoning the sick and disabled but that's where we are heading.
The trouble is with my other half when we tried to get cover for her no one would touch her with that many health problems she has
It seems the world is against her at the moment, my Mrs decided to go to uni to make a better life for us both got her degree and not long after she graduated she fell ill and not worked since, this was 7 years ago, she is only 39 and i can't see here ever working againmeans tested or whatever they call it is a load of crap, they tried to get her to look for work she can hardly get out of bed
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Yes, really you are. You have decided that drug addiction is not as worthy of support as your friends disability.
Neither does abandoning the sick and disabled but that's where we are heading.
The final step of ownership is to decide who owns it after you, inheritance tax takes that right away.