Tories giving the disabled another kicking

The Mad Rapper · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:42

RoboCod said:
Pathetic. Grow up.

That's a mature statement. You may wish to take your own advice.

Bear · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:44

Dolph said:
It depends what drives the inequality. Should the state punish those who made good personal choices through taxation and use the proceeds to reward those who made bad choices through benefits or tax credits?

Should good decisions be negated to reduce the impact of bad ones?

Is that really the way towards a healthy and productive society?

If we are talking about having a society where people get to keep what they earn, then inherited wealth has no place in that society. Everyone should stand by their own effort.

Terminal_Boy · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:44

So, UK child poverty means not having the money to go away on holiday for week every year?

Is there a committee of the utterly deluded that dream this rubbish up?

Lord-Jaffa · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:46

Hades said:
Your dads tax evasion is partly to blame for the tax levied on you to be able to see.

Yep. Whole system irritates me.

Hades · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:52

Lord-Jaffa said:
Yep. Whole system irritates me.

Surely this is a case of people annoying you rather than the system? If someone doesn't declare their cash income then it's very unlikely that The System can do much about it. This one is down to personal greed.

RoboCod · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:52

The Mad Rapper said:
That's a mature statement. You may wish to take your own advice.

Shocking that you're 42 years old! I pity you.

Destination · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:55

Lord-Jaffa said:
Yep. Whole system irritates me.

Report him

I am confused as to how he qualifies at all for the mobility part of PIP with being deaf in one ear.

Destination · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:55

Terminal_Boy said:
So, UK child poverty means not having the money to go away on holiday for week every year?

Is there a committee of the utterly deluded that dream this rubbish up?

Yes.
There is a committee who set poverty goals, and on the basis of these goals, the poverty figures are established.

The Mad Rapper · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:56

RoboCod said:
Shocking that you're 42 years old! I pity you.

You pity me for being 42?

Lord-Jaffa · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:58

Hades said:
Surely this is a case of people annoying you rather than the system? If someone doesn't declare their cash income then it's very unlikely that The System can do much about it. This one is down to personal greed.

The mobility car infuriates me more, what an absolute waste of taxpayers money for someone who does not need anything of the sort. The sooner the entire system is overhauled the better. My sister is another one rinsing the system as well (agoraphobia lol). Just disgusted with them to be honest.

Terminal_Boy · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:59

Hikari Kisugi said:
Yes.
There is a committee who set poverty goals, and on the basis of these goals, the poverty figures are established.

What qualifications and experience are required to sit on this committee?

Lord-Jaffa · 13 Mar 2016 at 10:59

Hikari Kisugi said:
Report him

I am confused as to how he qualifies at all for the mobility part of PIP with being deaf in one ear.

I honestly have no idea how he's ended up with one.

Dolph · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:15

Bear said:
If we are talking about having a society where people get to keep what they earn, then inherited wealth has no place in that society. Everyone should stand by their own effort.

Keeping what you earn includes deciding where it goes after you. Your determination to steal the property of the dead has no place in any society.

Tunney · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:15

Dolph said:
Critical illness and personal injury insurance is cheap enough though.

A good friend of mine had a heart defect from birth that made walking more than 100m impossible. Could you explain how he was supposed to get insurance for his condition, please?

Dolph · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:16

stewski said:
I'm not sure we agree that rising to the top is all about simply making good choices, if we had a meritocracy I'd have greater understanding of your point.

While we're discussing inheritance and equality
http://www.cpag.org.uk/child-poverty-facts-and-figures

9 out of a classroom of 30 live in child poverty is THIS really the way towards a healthy and productive society?

Is this the nonsense relative poverty measure which is nothing to do with poverty and is instead a measure of inequality, and implies that the only problem is money?

Dolph · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:17

Tunney said:
A good friend of mine had a heart defect from birth that made walking more than 100m impossible. Could you explain how he was supposed to get insurance for his condition, please?

Not really relevant, that reply was in response to an example of someone who was healthy and working then becomes ill.

wordy · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:20

Dolph said:
Not really relevant, that reply was in response to an example of someone who was healthy and working then becomes ill.

You can't answer his question, can you.

Woden · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:21

Tunney said:
A good friend of mine had a heart defect from birth that made walking more than 100m impossible. Could you explain how he was supposed to get insurance for his condition, please?

If he can't afford the insurance it was irresponsible for him to choose to be born with this condition.

Tunney · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:22

Dolph said:
Not really relevant, that reply was in response to an example of someone who was healthy and working then becomes ill.

So what should he have done in your world where we don't give money from 'who made good personal choices' to the vulnerable in society? How does he afford the help he needs?

Dolph · 13 Mar 2016 at 11:26

Hikari Kisugi said:
Report him

I am confused as to how he qualifies at all for the mobility part of PIP with being deaf in one ear.

Easy way to is claim you don't feel comfortable or are unable to make a journey without support. It's been tightened up somewhat on pip compared to dla, which makes it harder to hit the points...