Tony Blair says Britain's unemployed are WRONG to complain migrants are taking their jobs and says t

pinkpill said:
No, if UK leaves the EU then the 3-5 million workers would need to leave the UK, or apply for working visas.
It would mean there could be up to 3 million plus EU nationals having to leave the UK, this would free up housing, This would free up jobs, it would mean employers would need to pay more as there will be less workers in the pool to hire.
So less demand for housing but would leave high supply of housing pushing down rents, more demand for workers less supply of worker pushing up wages. Supply and Demand.
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All meaning employers would go abroad with the cheap labour that we're losing.

You don't have a crystal ball, you just have a bias and it is very obvious.
 
VincentHanna said:
There's a minimum wage for a reason, the idea that big business can somehow pay foreign workers less is complete nonsense. Only a few sole traders can maybe employ foreign workers off the books for less than minimum wage, and that's illegal and should be clamped down on.



Sorry, exactly how will coming out of Europe make my housing cheaper to rent/buy?

Rubbish.

The Tory government have kept it artificially high since the financial crisis of 2008, rather than letting it settle back down to a more normal price.
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No, it been happening since 1999 and over heated 2004/5, this is a Labour plan carried on by the Cons.
 
pinkpill said:
No, if UK leaves the EU then the 3-5 million workers would need to leave the UK, or apply for working visas.
It would mean there could be up to 3 million plus EU nationals having to leave the UK, this would free up housing, This would free up jobs, it would mean employers would need to pay more as there will be less workers in the pool to hire.
So less demand for housing but would leave high supply of housing pushing down rents, more demand for workers less supply of worker pushing up wages. Supply and Demand.
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So all the 3-5m EU Nationals all own houses here?
 
Gilly said:
All meaning employers would go abroad with the cheap labour that we're losing.

You don't have a crystal ball, you just have a bias and it is very obvious.
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And leave one of the worlds largest economies, I doubt that.
How many times have we heard large companies say they were leaving the UK last one was HSBC, they are still here.
 
I'm not saying Labour helped things, but when the 2008 financial crisis happened, the conservatives had an opportunity to let the market correct itself.

They didn't take it and kept prices artificially high.
 
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pinkpill said:
No, if UK leaves the EU then the 3-5 million workers would need to leave the UK, or apply for working visas.
It would mean there could be up to 3 million plus EU nationals having to leave the UK, this would free up housing,
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Bahhhhaaaa wow, what delusion. Non would have to leave. Leaving eu would have very little effect on immigration, despite the no campaigns delusional ideas.
 
VincentHanna said:
I'm not saying Labour helped things, but when the 2008 financial crisis happened, they had an opportunity to let the market correct itself.

They didn't take it and kept prices artificially high.
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They had chance back in 2005 when the bank of England lowered rates rather than increase them.
The whole housing market has be manipulated since 1997, even before that but not in the scale seen before.

The Government debt is not because of the poor is because of the rich that gambled away and didn't want to lose.

Education is the next bubble in this country just like the US, allowing private companies to make profits from education via lending rates would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
Labour started this whole this off by converting the type of student loans back in 1998, and gradually changed it over time.
 
pinkpill said:
I said free up housing, meaning less renting etc..
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Well, the amount we hear how they cram these pesky Europeans in, 3M leaving? That'll free up about 10 houses :p

And the bit you are missing when you keep going on about our min wage being twice that of Poland, is they have our increased cost of living while working here...so yes, they can save and take money home, but it's not as simple as you are portraying it.

And a good % (around 30% isn't it?) Stay and settle.
 
Nutella33 said:
I used the current example of nursing that is actually implemented to give you an example about policeman. How on earth do you think that the gov will fund free degree level education for a position at a time of ever increasing education costs and work place benefit cuts?
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completely irrelevant, it is a suggestion from the college of policing it has yet to be implimented

And no, the armed forces give you NVQ's as part of your training, not degrees. The "free" degree for some trades is in return for at least 8 years of service, often at lower than market price wages to compensate for the disadvantages the service puts you and a possible family under (moves, deployments etc), Its also worth noting that these benefits are changing or getting cut under the new NEM structure (AIP's for example are going). As you can see the trend is in the opposite direction you are attempting to argue for.
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not really, how do you know the police 'degrees' which are only so far a suggestion by a body responsible for police training (so rather a bit of self interest from them here) won't end up being a result of ongoing training? you don't because you're just making stuff up/talking about hypotheticals unless you can actually link to a detailed plan that is actually due to be implemented (which you can't do because it doesn't exist). It is an utterly pointless example as I've already pointed out.
 
pinkpill said:
How would it? once out people will not have the right to work in this country.
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Because government will give them a right to work. Labour, Tories, doesn't matter who are in power. Aren't just going to chuck them out.
Why do no campaign suddenly think political parties are going to change massively, it's pretty easy to predict what rules, budgets etc each party will implement.
 
Freakbro said:
Well, the amount we hear how they cram these pesky Europeans in, 3M leaving? That'll free up about 10 houses :p

And the bit you are missing when you keep going on about our min wage being twice that of Poland, is they have our increased cost of living while working here...so yes, they can save and take money home, but it's not as simple as you are portraying it.

And a good % (around 30% isn't it?) Stay and settle.
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Thats 300k homes already freed up, maybe even more, they will no longer have the right to social homes or any type benefits, just like other countries around the world, it would be work and no access to benefits or education or NHS. If they wanted access they would have to pay for it.
 
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