Why do we hate cycling in this country?

I can never understand the rage towards someone on a bike.

Just relax and overtake when it's safe and maybe lose between 15 seconds and a 1 minute of your time. Whats the difference between a cyclist and a tractor? I can bet both are nearly doing the same speed.

Raging against a cyclist using the road is just idiotic.

I have no issue waiting for a safe time to overtake, and treat the overtaking maneuver the same as if it was a car (ie give the same amount of space.

The issue for me normally comes when someone else is behind me and gets ****ed off with waiting.
 
Insurance is a stupid idea.

Insurance is a good idea IMO.

When I'm cycling, I have 3rd party insurance if I hit another car/bike and legal assistance if I need to make a claim against somebody who hits me.

You could quite easily write a car off if you hit it with your bike.
 
I'd also love to see red light jumpers prosecuted. As a responsible cyclist it annoys me no end when other bikes just ignore red lights, not just at pedestrian crossing either, it's insane.

THIS makes me hate cyclists.

They don't seem to think they have to stop when I am at a zebra crossing waiting to walk out into the road.

Some cyclists just like to pick and choose when they consider themselves to be a road vehicle.

BB x
 
You can't just get rid of the car in the cities, it's just not feasible. How are people going to commute? How are people going to bring a weeks worth of shopping home? If our public transportation was better suited then maybe, but that's definitely not the case. For the majorty of us there is little incentive to ditch the car for something else - usually that something else will take longer, is more expensive, or both.
I understand that, which is why we need a massive change.

Commuting - it's a long way off but Cambridge is headed in the right direction. Park and rides, Park and cycles.

I can manage a weeks worth of shopping on my bike no problems, but I understand a lot can't. Stop putting huge supermarkets in the centre of cities? Newmarket road (if you're familiar with it) is dreadful.


Safety in relation to having a common set of rules and expectations with regards to interaction, IE the highway code. As an example I've seen cyclists orbit the outside of a roundabout and others that position themselves exactly the same way as they would in a car (ie right hand lane for turning right). There's just a lot of inconsistencies. It will also prepare younger round users better before suddenly just jumping in with traffic.
Ok I agree with you on this, however we already have the highway code. And all road users regularly fail to adhere to it. Not sure what the solution is here. I'd love to hear it if you have one.

Of course we do see terrible driving still. But if someone's at fault you have regulated means to rectify any damage to you/your vehicle. The bad drivers are prosecuted. There's insurance claims, points system, means to identify bad driving. No such record exists for cyclists.
Some bad drivers are prosecuted. How many actually get penalised? Ever seen someone driving whilst on their phone? I see it every single day. How many of those are actually getting penalised? You'll be shocked (I hope) to find out that since the fines where introduced, a whopping - wait for it - 36,075 motorists have been charged and reached court. I can't find statistics on who has actually been fined and/or been given points.
 
Insurance is a good idea IMO.

When I'm cycling, I have 3rd party insurance if I hit another car/bike and legal assistance if I need to make a claim against somebody who hits me.

You could quite easily write a car off if you hit it with your bike.

Sorry, you're right.

Mandatory insurance is a stupid idea.
 
Where abouts in Cambridge? I live a bit further out now but I used to go in via the guided busway or via huntingdon road into the center and don't recall having issues with any weighted lights.

A lot of the roads on the northern side of the city up to the ring road.
 
THIS makes me hate cyclists.

They don't seem to think they have to stop when I am at a zebra crossing waiting to walk out into the road.

Some cyclists just like to pick and choose when they consider themselves to be a road vehicle.

BB x

Well actually, they don't have to stop at a zebra crossing, as cars do not either. Perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with the regulations concerning them, rather then "hating" one subset of road users because you are uninformed.
 
The issue here is that people come from different places which results in a divide of opinion amongst those who get involved in this discussion, and it happens every time this topic rears its head. Lots of people don't understand how frustrating cyclists can be (note: not irritating, frustrating, there's a difference) because they don't experience them the way people do in city centers, at least not to the extent of city dwellers. Someone from a nice little village oop norf doesn't understand what a central Londoner goes through in terms of cyclists and this leads to completely differing opinions.

That said, here are why cyclists irritate me, from a Londoner's point of view (and I cycle myself in London, so I see the argument from both sides):

Cyclists can be very inconsiderate of other road users which often leads to very dangerous situations. You can often spot the difference between a cyclist with a driver's licence and one without.

Cyclists can ride around at night with no lights on which can make them hard to see and result in "OH ****" moments, or worse, a collision.

Cyclists can ride four abreast taking up an entire lane and not move over which leads to frustration. See point 1.

Cyclists can jump red lights with impunity which of course sparks the SJW in people regardless of whether it's dangerous or not.

Here in London, half of our roads are being taken away for cyclists which ruins the flow of traffic. Anyone who's been near Elephant and Castle roundabout in the last few months in rush hour will know exactly what I mean.

Boris Johnson and the London Mayoral Committee thought it'd be a great idea to let anyone from any country hope on a bike in one of the world's busiest cities and ride around until their heart's content on any road, with no training or experience. Some of these people may never have ridden a bike before (that's an extreme scenario, but it makes the point), most come from countries where they drive / ride on the other side of the road, some come from countries like Spain or Italy, where the rules of the road are pretty much "I was here first, get out of my way". This just doesn't work but it swept under the carpet because we're so far in to this cuddle-all-the-cyclists mentality that there's no going back without someone ending up with a whole pack of eggs on their face.

People like Cycledan using their helmet cams to deliberately be bell ends and try wind people up for the sake of playing the victim card and make a few bob on Youtube.



//There are other reasons but these are the ones that spring to mind. I understand that it's usually the minority that ruin it for the rest but when it comes to road safety, people get very angry very fast.
 
You might hate the idea, but cyclists do reduce congestion. You're approaching this the wrong way, selfishly of course. What's the biggest causation of congestion here? Thats right, it's cars. Lets think about whats happening - congestion and pollution. Time to kill the car.

Why is your journey more important than his? Boohoo - it isn't. It's safer for him to do so, so he'll do it. Get over it, or better yet, get on your bike and you can do it too!

Firstly a car can travel at 30mph with absolutely no problem whatsoever. A cycle slows down everyone behind it creating unnecessary patches where traffic needs to brake and go around. Why are you assuming that anyone who doesn't cycle will automatically be driving a car?

And how on earth is it safer for a cyclist to cut everyone up and go to a front of a queue forcing everyone to overtake the same cyclist AGAIN, and again, and again???

You cant have double standards, so tell me why a cyclists journey is more important than the 10 cars he cuts up??? eh? I'm just waiting in a queue doing nothing, the cyclist is the one assuming his journey is more important lol.

Surely that's creating the same hazard again and again so how can it be safer, lol?
 
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Near to me there are some national speed limit back roads that a cycling group uses after work during the week.

Time and time again I've got stuck behind them as they insist on riding 2x2 in a chain of about 6, chatting away whilst they poodle along. Totally oblivious to the progression of cars trapped behind them.
 
And how on earth is it safer for a cyclist to go to a front of a queue forcing everyone to overtake the same cyclist AGAIN, and again, and again??? Surely that's creating the same hazard again?

All bike / motorbike riders should have to queue in lane, not dangerously squeeze down the side / middle to try and skip traffic.
 
All bike / motorbike riders should have to queue in lane, not dangerously squeeze down the side / middle to try and skip traffic.

Exactly. I wouldn't mind a motorbike actually because they can actually keep up with road traffic.

Imagine a car cutting you up at some lights and then only doing 5mph until you can safely overtake it, it's absolute disgusting **** like behaviour, why cyclists think they can do it is beyond me.
 
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Cyclists can be very inconsiderate of other road users which often leads to very dangerous situations.

True of all road users: motorists, caravans, pedetrians, horses (I call them organic bikes), tractors, HGVs, etc.

You can often spot the difference between a cyclist with a driver's licence and one without.

Agree 100%.

Cyclists can ride around at night with no lights on which can make them hard to see and result in "OH ****" moments, or worse, a collision.

Yep, annoys me too. Also happens with cars but much less frequently.

Cyclists can ride four abreast taking up an entire lane and not move over which leads to frustration.

Annoys me too.

Cyclists can jump red lights with impunity which of course sparks the SJW in people regardless of whether it's dangerous or not.

Lots of cars jump lights, particularly when squeezing through before/during/just after the change. You can't blame cyclists if police don't catch them. And the law only prescribes what happens if you get caught transgressing and are successfully prosecuted. Anyone can still choose to break a law, presumably thinking they won't get caught. Or by having a great lawyer.

Here in London, half of our roads are being taken away for cyclists which ruins the flow of traffic. Anyone who's been near Elephant and Castle roundabout in the last few months in rush hour will know exactly what I mean.

Blame planners, not cyclists.
 
Nothing more exciting than a 5 mile tail back because someone is cycling down a twisty country road. I just love coming round a bend to be greeted with a cyclist going 50mph slower than my car, forcing me to have to either slam my breaks on or go onto the other side of the road.
 
Here in London, half of our roads are being taken away for cyclists which ruins the flow of traffic. Anyone who's been near Elephant and Castle roundabout in the last few months in rush hour will know exactly what I mean.

Oh come on, when it comes to traffic in London, cyclists are most definitely not the problem.
 
I have no problem with cyclists, but at rush hour in my city there are many places where there is literally no way to get past them without every car merging into an already full lane causing either a massive tailback or cars aggressively pushing into lanes next to them to get past. Then 2 minutes later the cyclist will hop onto the pavement, wizz past to the front of the queue and repeat the process.

The above problem is the not an issue with the cyclist though it's the fact there is next to no cycling infrastructure provided for them.

However, that said... the one who rides on the tight road (right next to a massive cycle path) which has islands every 5 seconds making overtaking next to impossible without going on the other side of the road past one or speeding up to ridiculous speeds for about 2 miles should be shot.
 
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