Really must try better next troll.
Why do we hate cycling in this country?
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Really must try better next troll.
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I have been here for years, I'm not a troll.
Every cyclist that cycles through my village is rude and objectionable and treats every pedestrian like ****.
I'm sorry that my view doesn't match with yours. That doesn't make me a troll though.
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Not a troll, no. But you are painting in spectacularly broad strokes. What about the cyclists who have never been near your village ? I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that it might be the majority of them.
Unless, of course, something about your village makes people unlikeable
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Yeah, everyone there makes generalisations based on prejudice.
See what i did there
See what i did there
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And here lies the problem.
I can only talk about the motorists, pedestrians & cyclists on my daily commute and not anywhere else in the Country or even other parts of Stoke.
I can paint most of the above with the same brush but only in the areas I cycle.
I'm 100% convinced that in my area of Stoke that ALL motorists have a major problem with cyclists.
90% of my commute goes nowhere near motorists but still in that other 10% I will sometimes have problems with those who think they own the road.
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Okay, I will apologise for generalising.
The cyclists that I have personally experienced in my life have all been horrible and that includes when I have cycled past them. They never even acknowledge you.
Again, only in my village and its surrounding areas. Not representative of all cyclists.
The cyclists that I have personally experienced in my life have all been horrible and that includes when I have cycled past them. They never even acknowledge you.
Again, only in my village and its surrounding areas. Not representative of all cyclists.
You should live somewhere nicer. Probably further North.
I can generalise pretty much entirely the other way. Can't remember ever having a problem with rude or discourteous cyclists. And when riding myself, I can only remember one incident of note with a driver.
I live in Kent.
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I think people reap what they sow - raise people with no respect don't expect them to care when they become adults. Molly coddling is nice but it raises obnoxious idiots.
Why the hell should they acknowledge you? Is there something special about you that means people must pay you homage?
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I'm clearly not explaining this very well.
What I mean is, when you're walking along the road, they don't acknowledge you're there so you have to move out of their way. They never, ever move out just a few metres to, you know, not put you into a pothole.
What I mean is, when you're walking along the road, they don't acknowledge you're there so you have to move out of their way. They never, ever move out just a few metres to, you know, not put you into a pothole.
But is doesn't work quite like that.
The first driver is held up for 30 seconds, the second is held up for a minute, the third is held up for a minute and a half.
And so on
I routinely see a single cyclist holding up a queue of traffic of 20 vehicles or more round here (SW Surrey)
I cannot think of any other behaviour that causes other people as much inconvenience, frustration, delay and indeed expense# that would be tolerated let alone officially encouraged.
And it is dangerous too. Casualties rates from cycling are well into DUI territory, not just by a little bit, but well over!
(#Slowing a truck from 40 to 15 and getting back up to speed will consume an extra 1/4-1/2 Litre of fuel per incident. Any cyclist who delays a truck more than once every 2 miles or so would be kinder for the planet driving a car, or at least a motorbike)
And yes, I do cycle for fun.
Off road where I am not being a PITA to other people.
And when I cycle over rubble and through muddy puddles I dispair of people who say "I wont use the cycle path because it has leaves and a bit of grit on it"
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chill dude wtf? its fine to **** off none gay people but as soon as we use the word gay , people get upset.
hypocrites.
Same with racism. it works both ways
Very simple view for me 
Cycling isn't the issue, it's cyclists that are the issue.
Where I live we have had lots of money spent on cycle lanes into town because cyclists were using the path instead of the road, council spends several million on improved cycle routes and enlarged 'cycle path' and the cyclists now ride on the road.
Then you get them riding anything up to 4 abreast on twisting country roads so you basically can't overtake, so you 'make them aware of your presence' with the horn (what it's there for) where they then get irate over it. It's often hard enough to get past them in the first place around here.
My favourite thing though is on roads where you can't easily overtake that the cyclist decides to stop pedalling so they go even slower than they already were... seriously why do you stop pedalling when a car is behind you, it's already struggling to go 10mph already and you did choose to pedal your own bike rather than get one with a motor.
Seriously if they can't use the road/their cycle paths properly they shouldn't be on it and there needs to be laws brought in to enforce they do use the things provided for them.
Also feel they should wear helmets and fluorescent jacket and have an insurance to use the road, same goes for horses and ANY other vehicle that uses the road.
Cycling isn't the issue, it's cyclists that are the issue.
Where I live we have had lots of money spent on cycle lanes into town because cyclists were using the path instead of the road, council spends several million on improved cycle routes and enlarged 'cycle path' and the cyclists now ride on the road.
Then you get them riding anything up to 4 abreast on twisting country roads so you basically can't overtake, so you 'make them aware of your presence' with the horn (what it's there for) where they then get irate over it. It's often hard enough to get past them in the first place around here.
My favourite thing though is on roads where you can't easily overtake that the cyclist decides to stop pedalling so they go even slower than they already were... seriously why do you stop pedalling when a car is behind you, it's already struggling to go 10mph already and you did choose to pedal your own bike rather than get one with a motor.
Seriously if they can't use the road/their cycle paths properly they shouldn't be on it and there needs to be laws brought in to enforce they do use the things provided for them.
Also feel they should wear helmets and fluorescent jacket and have an insurance to use the road, same goes for horses and ANY other vehicle that uses the road.
Cycling is just a leisure activity. Yes, it's legal to do on public road, somewhat in the same way as jogging is legal to do on pavements. However when done at the cost of slowing down commuters, business traffic and transportation it receives the expected backlash. At the end of the day cycling is a choice whereas majority of road users stuck behind them are on the road because they must. Plumbers can't take their pipes on the bus, lorry drivers can't deliver 18 tons of potatoes via underground train, long range commuters can't reach their workplace off M25 on roller skates. Cyclists have a choice, they choose to cycle rather than drive, walk or take a bus. It might be good for their health or the environment but they voluntarily elect to be slow in traffic that prefers to rush. That is permanently incompatible with current public highway usage and always will remain so.
As platypus said it's a mode of transport. Some people do it for leisure, some do it for fitness, some do it to get somewhere. Or all three.
Driving a vehicle is a choice. It's just the easy/lazy one. Most cars on the road only have one person in them. Including mine. It's a massive waste. But it's also because I don't want to be listening to other peoples' annoying music, or having to breathe in their germs / food smells on public transport or want to get there in my own time, quicker than via a walk, a bus and another walk / bus / train etc.
Watch any video (one grudas posted in pedal powered) - that's about 17 minutes of cars/lorries/buses holding him up on his bike.
Car drivers mostly choose to drive because they're lazy.
I'm going to be commuting 15-20 miles each way to work via bike 3/4 times a week once the evenings get a bit lighter, not that I mind riding in the dark... but don't want to be riding on THOSE roads in the dark at busier times of day.
Yeah I'll choose to do that, but the alternative is be asleep, get up, sit down in a car for 30 mins, sit down in an office for 8.5 hours, sit down in a car for 30 mins... go home and probably sit down. = Fat.