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970 still holding their price

I'm still banking on NVidia and amd to follow what they have always done,i cant see there being a big increase in performance for that much cheaper than the price of cards now,hope I'm wrong though but just cant see it lol

If they do what they have always done, we will have 980Ti performance for £300 (possibly even less)
 
You are wrong. No-one would buy Pascal if it had 980 performance, unless it was £150 or so.

The most expensive Pascal card, on initial release, will be above 980ti performance with 8GB VRAM, it will have async compute and cost around £400 IMO.

You think the new pascal card is going to be 400:confused::p

DELUSIONAL
 
Too much hot air going on here.

The 980ti performance Pascal equivalent will be a X70 at around £300-350. This card, for that cost, will perform on a par with a 980ti or it may outperform it. The 980ti old stock will sell for around £200-250.
 
Too much hot air going on here.

The 980ti performance Pascal equivalent will be a X70 at around £300-350. This card, for that cost, will perform on a par with a 980ti or it may outperform it. The 980ti old stock will sell for around £200-250.

This is pure conjecture...so nothing but hot air too.;)
 
It's based on what came before, it's how Nvidia do it. :cool:

What was Titan pricing based on?

Sometimes they change it up a bit, push the boundaries, react to changes in the market.

They don't have a set formula which they slavishly follow each gen regardless.
 
What was Titan pricing based on?

Sometimes they change it up a bit, push the boundaries, react to changes in the market.

They don't have a set formula which they slavishly follow each gen regardless.

Yes, based on all that and the price of the £ against the $... however, people who want to buy a mid range card will only pay so much so Nvidia have their hand forced.

They have 2 restricting factors :

The budget that their target customer will have
The performance that their target customer will expect.

If the X70 costs more than £300 and performs worse than a 980ti then who's going to buy it and why?
 
Let's look at this logically then.

If you're releasing a 980 perf card at £150, what's coming in above that? A 980ti is 30% more powerful, so let's assume we can charge about 50% more. £225.

And your best mid-sized card (of the ones coming in 2016) is probably 980ti+30%. So what can we charge for that? Let's add another 50% to the price... giving us £340 for the top end card this year.

So (my estimation of) your predictions would be:

~980 perf: £150
~980ti perf: £225
~980ti x1.3 £340

Does that about cover it?

To me I look at that list and think the first two cards are /way/ under-priced. I'd absolutely love it to be true, and I'd bite the hand off the company prepared to give me 980ti perf for £225.

I'd say something like this:

~980 performance (4GB): £150
~980ti performance (6GB): £280
>980ti performance (8GB): £450-£500

Of course this depends on Polaris cards being competitive performance wise. If polaris is a dog, NVIDIA can get away with a 30% price increase etc.
 
I'd say something like this:

~980 performance (4GB): £150
~980ti performance (6GB): £280
>980ti performance (8GB): £450-£500

Of course this depends on Polaris cards being competitive performance wise. If polaris is a dog, NVIDIA can get away with a 30% price increase etc.

Never going to happen.

You think NV are going to release a 6gb card for 280?:D
 
I'd say something like this:

~980 performance (4GB): £150
~980ti performance (6GB): £280
>980ti performance (8GB): £450-£500

Of course this depends on Polaris cards being competitive performance wise. If polaris is a dog, NVIDIA can get away with a 30% price increase etc.

The perf increase from 980 to 980ti is ~30%. Who is going to buy a 980ti at almost double the price of the non-ti? I don't understand your logic there.

I'd say you either have to increase the non-ti to £200+, or you can't justify more than £240 ish for the ti.

It's only at the top of the range where you can charge what you like for an extra 5%. That doesn't work for the mid-range parts.
 
The perf increase from 980 to 980ti is ~30%. Who is going to buy a 980ti at almost double the price of the non-ti? I don't understand your logic there.

I'd say you either have to increase the non-ti to £200+, or you can't justify more than £240 ish for the ti.

It's only at the top of the range where you can charge what you like for an extra 5%. That doesn't work for the mid-range parts.

The 4GB of VRAM on the 980 equivalent will turn off a lot of people upgrading from a 970/980. People generally want more VRAM when they upgrade.
 
The 4GB of VRAM on the 980 equivalent will turn off a lot of people upgrading from a 970/980. People generally want more VRAM when they upgrade.

But there's only a 25% price difference between the non-ti and the ti as it stands today.

So how will that become an 85% price difference when those perf levels show up in the next gen, as you've suggested?
 
Never going to happen.

You think NV are going to release a 6gb card for 280?:D

Certainly probable. The 970 had 4gb (yes I know 3.5 + 0.5 etc).

The X70 Pascal will no doubt have more so I fully expect a 6gb or more X70 card for ~£300.

I think we will have an X70 card for around ~£300 which will perform around the same as a 980ti (a bit more if we are lucky) and then an X80 card which will be about 20% ( again more if we are lucky) faster than a 980Ti for ~ £400.

Then the X80Ti will come out early next year for ~£500 and likely be a good 50-60% or more faster than the current 980Ti.
 
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At 1080p it's not a major factor...

What the mid cards are for...

1440P will play very well on next gen's mid range cards. Even 4K in some older titles.

1080P use will continue to decline year on year, for PC's at least. Obviously at the moment it's still the most popular resolution, but it's decreasing in popularity year on year.

We'll need to wait for the next generation of consoles (which will be 4k) in order to completely erase 1080P though.
 
Transistor count and clockspeed are a better guide to performance than what node is being used.

New node = more transistors. Generally speaking. It's a large factor in the growth in processor power since, well, pretty much since they've been invented.

Make no mistake, this is the biggest year in GPUs since the 8800gt/x. Look, we all have access to the same news and info, I say go get a new gtx970 if you think it's a good buy.
 
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