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All I know is Maxwell will be EOL very quick.
Sell SELL!
Sell SELL!
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So you are suggesting 980Ti owners should sell up now? What if they want to wait for the replacement high end card? Do you think people should go to the first mid-range release then sell again when the big cards come along? May be a bit of a hassle to some.
Look, its impossible to predict what's going to happen. GPU prices aren't always stable. We can hope for a price performance legend like the 8800gt, or even just a very competitive backdrop. ATI caught Nvidia on the hop with the HD4xxx series, and that year the price of the flagship GTX 280 fell like a hot rock. Either way, it should be a very exciting year.
I just wish there were more decent games to take advantage of it.
I just wish there were more decent games to take advantage of it.
Mid range Pascal/Polaris won't have much different transistor count to Big Maxwell/Fiji.
This year is going to be quite dull for GPUs with minimal performance increases.
Early next year is when things become more interesting when we see Big Polaris/Pascal GPUs.
Worse still for Mid range Pascal is NVidia are putting the compute functions back in meaning there will be an additional performance penalty.
I believe anyone who doesn't want to lose great value on their 980ti's is to sell immediately. Scaremongering work's. Really it does. As for 970. Good card priced well will lose the least. Depends on your outlook. Keep, stay or wait.
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Do you think that people with top end cards care about money?
Most will keep 980ti and wait until the top tier cards...
They certainly wont sell now and buy mid range pascal and then sell pascal on for top tier...
Noob
People expect massive gains.
Its not how tech companies make money.
Just look at intel and skylake.
It will be new tech but not huge in terms of gains...With no direct competition why would NV lose 18 months of sales...
Kids in this GFX forum are so naive .
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Well I think I'd rather go with your advice, i was originally going to wait for the next big cards anyway.
I think you are all forgetting the 780ti only sold for £250-300 a year after the 970 and 980 came out and then the 980ti was out or coming out very soon.
I think a lot are dreaming they are getting a 980ti for under £300- £400 on release of Pascal. I also feel some are going to face the reality about die shrinks in this day and age. Also these cards are not going to be cheap because they missed so many die shrinks and the costs that will all be added up into these to recover all the R&D in previous die shrink technologies that never worked or made it to production. So expect a tiny die that has about the same performance as a 980ti and probably overclocks not so well and will be sold as the high-end till real large die Pascal comes out where we will see some real performance gains at again about 250w. These 1 8pin cards are not going to magically take on a 6pin+8pin card on and beat it by a good margin to upgrade from the 980ti. That is if they really have a single 8pin too, we don't know.. It's all rumors and most don't make sense from what we have seen with recent die shrinks from Intel. Intel are the masters of IC fabrication and they lead the way.
Neither Nvidia or AMD are talking these up in a big way, they both are saying power efficiency and performance per watt... read between the lines, This is Intel speak for it's a bit better than last generation but don't expect them to be much more powerful performance wise. Look at Intel and the CPU market as an example what has the die shrinks done for them in the last 5 years..
Let's wait and see ... but some are just trolling now in this thread.
Yes sell sell so he can get a cheap card and same with Jono8... You two are something really.
.. You honestly believe what you are saying or just hoping people sell up on the MM so you can grab a bargain ?Also a heads up most people that have purchased such cards are on the Intel enthusiast platforms and won't be selling up till new cards appear due to the fact these platforms have no IGPU or they don't keep spare video cards while they wait and sell up.
Come on guys cut it out now. It's getting silly and you are both making things up, if you know anything about technology and prices when new gen comes out, you would know they don't magically loose half their value overnight.. That would be insane and very destructive to the industry.
A 780TI took almost 2 years before it came down to £250-£300 price from when Maxwell 970 & 980 came out. This was only because there was a lot of these chips in the market that Nvidia thought it would sell but didn't and then if it wasn't for Gibbo on here getting some great deals the prices would have stayed high. Rest of the retailers didn't drop prices to these levels you mention, you are talking about a rare situation that came up and Gibbo sorted out some really good deals on the 780TI. I know I was in the market for one when they came out but didn't like the price on them and waited almost/over 2 years before I got one at these prices you mention...
When the full size Pascal comes out next year then yes if there is a lot of stocks of 980ti left in warehouses you will see good deals again, but I believe this will not happen again and if it does it will be so few that get sold at £250-£300 to quickly clear them, but retailers have no reason to clear such small stocks as there is always people that want to SLI and will pay to do that.
Scaremongering is all you two are doing.
I just said that.
I'm sure you did mate, you understand technology and not like some, sorry didn't notice mate
People expect massive gains.
Its not how tech companies make money.
Just look at intel and skylake.
It will be new tech but not huge in terms of gains...With no direct competition why would NV lose 18 months of sales...
Kids in this GFX forum are so naive .
Yeah the biggest leaps were from massive redesigning of the architecture like the introduction of stream processors. For now its mainly just a case of adding more and keeping temperature at bay.
I'm sure you did mate, you understand technology and not like some, sorry didn't notice mate
I'm having fun posting in here
It will be new tech but not huge in terms of gains...With no direct competition why would NV lose 18 months of sales...
Kids in this GFX forum are so naive .
Sounds like your a kid if you haven't heard Polaris is also launching in a few months, maybe before or after Pascal.
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Hmmmmm
Fury X ? was "redesigning gfx cards" with HBM....
oh wait
I'm sure someone described the Fury X as the "980ti killer" prior to it's official launch. They even had it in their signature.
Oh wait...
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I suspect the 970's,980Ti's will be hit hardest when the large new chips come out but doubt that will be for a while anyway. Current card stocks will be well managed so prices stay high and are NLA at the right time
I think this time there are so many improvements that people will want to upgrade and the old cards, second hand at least, will be hit hard.
I tend to buy reference cards so am really referring to those. 780Ti reference cards are NLA, even if you can still buy one for £300 non-reference.
I think this time there are so many improvements that people will want to upgrade and the old cards, second hand at least, will be hit hard.
I tend to buy reference cards so am really referring to those. 780Ti reference cards are NLA, even if you can still buy one for £300 non-reference.
Yes sell sell so he can get a cheap card and same with Jono8... You two are something really.
Also a heads up most people that have purchased such cards are on the Intel enthusiast platforms and won't be selling up till new cards appear due to the fact these platforms have no IGPU or they don't keep spare video cards while they wait and sell up.
Come on guys cut it out now. It's getting silly and you are both making things up, if you know anything about technology and prices when new gen comes out, you would know they don't magically loose half their value overnight.. That would be insane and very destructive to the industry.
A 780TI took almost 2 years before it came down to £250-£300 price from when Maxwell 970 & 980 came out. This was only because there was a lot of these chips in the market that Nvidia thought it would sell but didn't and then if it wasn't for Gibbo on here getting some great deals the prices would have stayed high. Rest of the retailers didn't drop prices to these levels you mention, you are talking about a rare situation that came up and Gibbo sorted out some really good deals on the 780TI. I know I was in the market for one when they came out but didn't like the price on them and waited almost/over 2 years before I got one at these prices you mention...
When the full size Pascal comes out next year then yes if there is a lot of stocks of 980ti left in warehouses you will see good deals again, but I believe this will not happen again and if it does it will be so few that get sold at £250-£300 to quickly clear them, but retailers have no reason to clear such small stocks as there is always people that want to SLI and will pay to do that.
Scaremongering is all you two are doing.
How am I scaremongering? It is the other guy saying sell, sell, sell.
All I am saying as that based on pretty much all previous generations we will ikely have an X70 card for around £300 that performs similarly (possibly and hopefully a bit faster though as we have die shrink this time) to the 980Ti. That is literally the most likely outcome based on all the evidence we have.
Also, it is helpful to no one , including the OP, if you just make things up. 780Ti's could be had for £300 within a few weeks of the 970 and 980 release not years
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18629239&highlight=780ti
A few months prior to this, the 780Ti was still selling for ~£500. The 780Ti was released in November 2013 and was £500-£550 and less than a year later in October 2014 you could get them for £300. Those are the facts whether you like them or not.
I wish people would stop pulling stuff out of their ****. It isn't helpful for anyone.
It is you making things up.
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