Any 32" 1080p monitors?

those tv's aren't part of sony's normal range.

their normal range looks like W809, w807, w805, w706, etc. those he linked to are the crap sony's.

also they lost their title to gaming king of tv's to samsung last year. which is why i'm recommending a samsung.

i wouldn't be surprised if sony pull out of the tv market or sell it on tbh. they have been making a loss for a while.
 
What, just because Sony has the low-end R-serie, we should now dismiss the manufacturer as a whole? But, Samsung has the low-end H-serie, so shouldn't we then dismiss Samsung, as well? While we're at it, we should pretty much dismiss all the manufacturers, I can't currently think of any who doesn't have a low-end range in their selection.

As for Samsung being the input lag king:
You do understand that the very site you linked to, with the J6300 review with the 42ms input lag, also lists the Sony's W705 and W653 with 14ms and 15ms, respectively. That's closer to 3x input lag.

Samsung is indeed the input lag king in 4k TVs (quite a few of them achieve around 20-25ms), but they're quite lackluster in FHD. And as it stands, the OP is looking for an affordable set, which effectively leaves out 4k.

Well, there was the Samsung UE32F5000 from 2013, with 28ms input lag, but that's extremely hard to find in stock. But even that loses by half to the Sonys.

Also, you shouldn't make broad generalizations in any direction. Sony is the input lag king in FHD, Samsung is on 4k, but both of them have BAD sets, as well. You shouldn't buy the brand, you should buy the product. So don't just recommend some random set.

It also doesn't matter if Sony (or any other manufacturer, for that matter) sells its TV manufacturing to someone else. All that matters is those who provide good sets at the time of purchase. That's why we have reviews, so we can choose the best ones.
 
yeah so he shouldn't be buying those crap low end sony's is the point.

not every tv sony makes is decent. those are the crap ones he linked to.

the 32" j6300 is the king of the 32" market.

the w705 you mention is the 42" in the review. tv's of different sizes don't use the same panels. therefore if you read the review of the 42" the 32" could be terrible in comparison. especially if buying from sony who buy in all their panels.

this point was proven when hdtvtest and avforums reviewed the same model of tv's but in 3 different sizes. they found profound differences in the 40 inch models to the 48inch and the 55 inch models, etc.

therefore unless you can provide a review for a current model 32" sony. he's best off with the samsung.
 
And all this proves why I was not being a snob by wanting a monitor.

Thanks for the help guys.

Monitor it is :)

not really

"Getting the kids a large monitor for their room to play co-op games and watch films together."

Your kids aren't pro gamers where their livelihood depends on them getting the upper hand.

40ms input lag is perfectly fine in fact it's unnoticeable. do you really think wait a minute i pressed that button 3 frames ago is something you would say or notice?

anything below say 45ms is fine for 99% of people. it's not something you can notice. i have better than 20/20 vision and i game on a tv with 32ms of lag and a monitor with 4ms of lag. i see no difference in lag between them.

take the tv out of game mode and then i can see a difference but that's because 100ms of lag is now there.

basically there is a threshold and anything below that cannot be seen or felt.

game skill is far more important than lag. i know a guy who goes flawless in destiny 10 times a week yet games on a 50" tv which cost £300 brand new. just imagine how much lag there is on that tv.

your kids won't be at any disadvantage by using the 32" j6300. in fact i'd be willing to say they had an advantage as most people game on horrible tv's.
 
yeah so he shouldn't be buying those crap low end sony's is the point.

not every tv sony makes is decent. those are the crap ones he linked to.

the 32" j6300 is the king of the 32" market.

the w705 you mention is the 42" in the review. tv's of different sizes don't use the same panels. therefore if you read the review of the 42" the 32" could be terrible in comparison. especially if buying from sony who buy in all their panels.

this point was proven when hdtvtest and avforums reviewed the same model of tv's but in 3 different sizes. they found profound differences in the 40 inch models to the 48inch and the 55 inch models, etc.

therefore unless you can provide a review for a current model 32" sony. he's best off with the samsung.

1) But that doesn't justify dismissing Sony in total, like you implied.

2) Indeed, I even said so myself: ALL manufacturers have bad sets. That includes Samsung, as well.

3) The review recommends it for its picture quality, not input lag (42ms). Which is quite bad for gaming. Which was supposed to be the main usage scenario.

4-5) If you read my earlier posts, you'll find that I specifically recommended the 40", 42" and 43" models. I even raised my own concerns over the specific policy of clumping down together all the sizes within the model line, and recommended to look for individual reviews. And like shown earlier, Sony using other manufacturers' panels still made them the input lag king, and especially on the low-mid-range.

Also, you do understand that even the 32" version of W653 is still better than the Samsung J6300? (33ms vs 42ms)

6) That's why I'm not recommending 32" sets at all, as the industry has started moving away from 32", so he would have a limited selection. And even fewer people are reviewing them, and that's the core problem. I stated these points earlier, as well.

Bottom line:
42ms is too much for gaming. If he can't get anything better in 32", then he simply shouldn't get a 32". And if he can't find a good 42" one for a price he's content with (or if 42" is too big for his taste), then he shouldn't purchase a bad one, either. In that case, a monitor is indeed the better option for him.

Edit, to comment for the latter post:
You do understand that with your mentioned 32ms and 45ms, the 45ms is actually 40% slower than the 32ms? I have a 35ms set, and the input lag is noticeable, and barely tolerable. There is no way I'm getting a set with over 25ms input lag ever again. Unless the set is ONLY for movies or television programs, etc.
Having 20/20 vision shouldn't affect you noticing input lag, btw. Rather, vision acuity determines only "resolution".
 
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Getting the kids a large monitor for their room to play co-op games and watch films together.

No interest in getting a TV for reasons of input lag, motion blur, lack of pixel density etc.

Would preferably be IPS/VA for better viewing angles.

The biggest I can find is 28" which is fine but anything larger would be a bonus.

Thanks.

Yeah, I can't see point to buy a tv either, no much variety of different option!
 
The 32MP58HQ is perfect for what I need IMO.

Had to order from abroad but still only came in at £220 and I know it will be fine on PC.
 
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