Two explosions at Brussels airport

Outcast · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:39

Did no-one look at the location of that poster?

Of course that actually means diddly squat until you take into account that Belgium is the capital of the EU Kumbaya Utopia

sityeuropa · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:40

The Quran and Hadiths are all there to see.

Is there a good interpretation of it?

Most religions have bits that don't fit in with how we think society should work today. The believers will just pretend to ignore these bits which I think is hypocritical. If you don't agree with some of it then it's integrity is no longer there.

That is the thing, with religion you cannot modify it. Unlike any other form of guide you can adjust it to learn from our experiences and what we have learnt to this present day. With religion we have slowly learnt morally and scientifically that it no longer holds up.

SS-89 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:43

dowie said:
OK, could you give an example of recent non controversial comedic illustrations of mohammed in mainstream media?

You're not seriously unaware that mocking Mohammed is inevitably going to cause a huge **** storm for most moderate muslims let alone fundamentalists?

I don't disagree, see my edit above that they generally always attract controversy and upset over depictions. With over 1 billion muslims globally and social media that allows information exchange within seconds you're bound to offend a certain proportion or even the majority (as an aside I personally think they aren't particularly funny and are rather tasteless, the same if someone portrayed Jesus as a kiddy fiddler). However, it only takes 1 crazy person in that collective to go out and commit a heinous act.

dowie · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:44

sityeuropa said:
That is the thing, with religion you cannot modify it. Unlike any other form of guide you can adjust it to learn from our experiences and what we have learnt to this present day. With religion we have slowly learnt morally and scientifically that it no longer holds up.

well you can modify it to some extent, people change 'interpretations' and practices through time... at some point the Catholic church will probably decide that contraception is OK after all, albeit with some arbitrarily pointless rules surrounding it.

One issue with Islam though is that it isn't just a bunch of different accounts but rather the Quran claims to be the word of god itself, so you will have fundamentalists taking a very literal interpretation of it.

Yas786 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:45

Swagger187 said:
UK need a Trump!
Thats all I am going to say on this matter so I don't land myself in hot water

Of course we do, then watch how the country falls to pieces because some idiot gets into power preying on people's fear. Meanwhile making sure he has no idea how to make good on his promises but rather doing it for self publicity.

Above&Beyond · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:45

Yas786 said:
Lol so one random idiot on a forum claims of this behaviour?? Dear god almighty, you just prove how unbelievably gullible you are lol.

Now if u had a news source for his rubbish then I'd possibly entertain the idea as being real but seriously lol just lol.

I needed a good laugh today and you have given me that along with the others in here trying to blame Islam for the worlds problems.

You don't think the Islamic State is a problem? :confused:

Mynight · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:46

Yas786 said:
Of course we do, then watch how the country falls to pieces because some idiot gets into power preying on people's fear. Meanwhile making sure he has no idea how to make good on his promises but rather doing it for self publicity.

Cameron?

(although any PM could be accused of that)

Feel terrible for those that have needlessly lost their lives today. Hope they get whoever was behind it.

dowie · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:47

SS-89 said:
I don't disagree, see my edit above that they generally always attract controversy and upset over depictions. With over 1 billion muslims globally and social media that allows information exchange within seconds you're bound to offend a certain proportion or even the majority (as an aside I personally think they aren't particularly funny and are rather tasteless, the same if someone portrayed Jesus as a kiddy fiddler). However, it only takes 1 crazy person in that collective to go out and commit a heinous act.

difference is people like the comedy group Monty Python didn't have to fear for their lives after creating the film 'the Life of Brian', they just had some clergymen getting angry in the press and some angry letters written to them

phil675 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:49

Based Katie

Swagger187 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:53

Yas786 said:
Of course we do, then watch how the country falls to pieces because some idiot gets into power preying on people's fear. Meanwhile making sure he has no idea how to make good on his promises but rather doing it for self publicity.

Oh dear! Perhaps you didn't read back enough. As I said in an exchange with Josh about this matter. I will quote myself to make it a little easier for you.

Swagger187 said:
LOL really, too funny.
I am not saying necessarily placing him in charge. But need someone who speaks out for what they believe.
We need to stand up to these monsters. Something we are not doing now.

SS-89 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:53

dowie said:
well you can modify it to some extent, people change 'interpretations' and practices through time... at some point the Catholic church will probably decide that contraception is OK after all, albeit with some arbitrarily pointless rules surrounding it.

One issue with Islam though is that it isn't just a bunch of different accounts but rather the Quran claims to be the word of god itself, so you will have fundamentalists taking a very literal interpretation of it.

I agree with you, there is enough ambiguity around the text and no central defining figure to govern the interpretation. As such the political agenda of the higher ups in these terrorist organisations can use the religion as a means to control and brainwash the 'grunts' to carry out these acts. Like others said if it wasn't islam it would be something else but religion is a powerful propaganda tool in the right hands and this all goes way back to the issue around Palestine and Israel of which there is widespread resentment against the west.

dowie said:
difference is people like the comedy group Monty Python didn't have to fear for their lives after creating the film 'the Life of Brian', they just had some clergymen getting angry in the press and some angry letters written to them

Unfortunately that's the world we live in currently, they were also probably aware they weren't really at risk by doing it. I'm sorry but if you depict a cartoon in the current climate which is offensive to Islam, then given past events and generally what has been going on, you may be putting a crosshair on your head and you'd be an idiot to ignore that risk.

Mynight · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:53

Unless that's just selective quoting of her tweets it's a shame she's pushing an agenda over this already. Without even a hint of sadness for the victims.

Arazi · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:53

Regarding the two airport bombs, it does now seem they went off in the departure lounge, that is more worrying, how have they got through security? Is that really possible when the EU is meant to be at the highest security level, really!!!

What does that and the past weeks arrests really say about how we have so called got this\isis under control, it seems there are only arrests etc after the actual events and not before these scum do their attacks.

Again they have not got any control over what these ***** are doing.

phil675 · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:55

Mynight said:
Unless that's just selective quoting of her tweets it's a shame she's pushing an agenda over this already. Without even a hint of remorse for the victims.

I've heard this argument before and frankly the time for sobbing and competing over who cares the most is over.

doodah · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:56

Keeping an eye on France's (apparent) draconian emergency state/power laws after this, quite a division in the Government after Paris.

Mynight · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:57

phil675 said:
I've heard this argument before and frankly the time for sobbing and competing over who cares the most is over.

Lol what?

I didn't realise there was a time limit on it my bad.

Destination · 22 Mar 2016 at 14:59

Arazi said:
Regarding the two airport bombs, it does now seem they went off in the departure lounge, that is more worrying, how have they got through security? Is that really possible when the EU is meant to be at the highest security level, really!!!

What does that and the past weeks arrests really say about how we have so called got this\isis under control, it seems there are only arrests etc after the actual events and not before these scum do their attacks.

Again they have not got any control over what these ***** are doing.

Departure area, checkin desks for american airlines and then closer to the exit.
Not inside the lounges, unless the accounts have completely changed.

Cyanide · 22 Mar 2016 at 15:01

Arazi said:
Regarding the two airport bombs, it does now seem they went off in the departure lounge, that is more worrying, how have they got through security? Is that really possible when the EU is meant to be at the highest security level, really!!!

Photos all show damage to the check-in area of the departures section of the terminal. No-one would have gone through security before that :confused:

HEADRAT · 22 Mar 2016 at 15:04

phil675 said:
Based Katie

God I despise that vile woman

phil675 · 22 Mar 2016 at 15:05

Oh wow to think they just made this a month ago, you couldn't make it up