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MrMarvelous said:
I bet the Germans are really glad that they let all these animals in now. :)
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Yes i bet they are, just going by some people's logic on here that this is all the wests fault because we do nothing to help these people when they come to the west, we apparently dont help them integrate, dont help them with employment, you all know the usual stuff we are blamed for.

Well going by that logic Germany is ****** for the next 100 years, seeing as the west dont help them which then means we in the west end up with scumbags who want to kill us all, our own home grown extremists, you know because it is our fault.

Germany is part of the west isn't it?

Zethor, N17, Zoommee, what is in your crystal balls regarding Germany's future?
 
twist3d0n3 said:
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Red bull meets keyboard, thanks :)
 
VincentHanna said:
So....you said

By that same logic, Muslims in this country don't need to apologise for Belgium, Paris etc.
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You're paraphrasing and taking my quote out of context. The section you've quoted is to do with the Russian nationalist party which is a political party, it is not a global movement or global religion so it has nothing to do with me on a religious or political basis.

Although I'm obviously mostly concerned with the terrorist attacks that happen in the UK and Europe, this issue is global. Muslims are global, and this issue is global, so Muslims from all over the globe that aren't nut jobs and want peace should be leading the fight against this. For the likes of zethor, yourself and others that say we, the self loathing westerns whose efforts are never good enough should be doing more to integrate these people in western society; answer me this - how will integration help stop al shibab, Isis, boku harram and the dozens of other malitia terrorist groups whose numbers are in the hundreds of thousands. These groups are carrying out atrocities in the name of Islam. They are not carrying out atrocities because they didn't have enough 'integration.' The home grown Muslim extremists in Europe are followers, supporters, extensions of these groups.

All of the comments saying why should Muslims apologise, nobody is actually saying they should apologise, but what people are waiting for is for them to actively stand up for their religion. If all these people slaughtering innocent people in the name of Islam aren't true Muslims, you would expect peaceful Muslims to be in absolute uproar trying to protect their religion from the bad name that these people are giving it.

Or we could all be in denial and the likes of boku haram can carry on slaughtering Nigerian villages and abducting school girls in the name of religion. Perhaps they are just poor misunderstood individuals that weren't provided with enough social group activities and job prospects when they were younger.
 
ColdAsIce said:
No mention of 9/11 being staged N17 :( oh and the moon landings of course.
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Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
 
Lima said:
You're paraphrasing and taking my quote out of context. The section you've quoted is to do with the Russian nationalist party which is a political party, it is not a global movement or global religion so it has nothing to do with me on a religious or political basis.

Although I'm obviously mostly concerned with the terrorist attacks that happen in the UK and Europe, this issue is global. Muslims are global, and this issue is global, so Muslims from all over the globe that aren't nut jobs and want peace should be leading the fight against this. For the likes of zethor, yourself and others that say we, the self loathing westerns whose efforts are never good enough should be doing more to integrate these people in western society; answer me this - how will integration help stop al shibab, Isis, boku harram and the dozens of other malitia terrorist groups whose numbers are in the hundreds of thousands. These groups are carrying out atrocities in the name of Islam. They are not carrying out atrocities because they didn't have enough 'integration.' The home grown Muslim extremists in Europe are followers, supporters, extensions of these groups.

All of the comments saying why should Muslims apologise, nobody is actually saying they should apologise, but what people are waiting for is for them to actively stand up for their religion. If all these people slaughtering innocent people in the name of Islam aren't true Muslims, you would expect peaceful Muslims to be in absolute uproar trying to protect their religion from the bad name that these people are giving it.

Or we could all be in denial and the likes of boku haram can carry on slaughtering Nigerian villages and abducting school girls in the name of religion. Perhaps they are just poor misunderstood individuals that weren't provided with enough social group activities and job prospects when they were younger.
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Well said
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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Just stop now, you're making yourself look silly.

There was wreckage found (it's in the very pictures the idiots use to say there wasn't any) and the other arguments are about the same level of idiocy.
 
Freefaller said:
I'm not suggesting it does - but understanding that not all Muslims are extremists is a good start for non Muslims.
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So according to that remark non Muslims think that all Muslims are extremist?

I have also been to 2 countries that are mostly Muslim, Turkey nearly 20 years ago, Kusadasi, lovely, lovely people, i never went there with a single thought of Islam, extremism, racism, terror attacks or that i could possibly end up in an attack or hurt etc in some way, i had no view at all, i didn't have to have a view, not of Islam or Muslims, would the locals like us or hate us? i went and i enjoyed my whole two weeks, possibly the best holiday i have had and the cheapest.

I never once thought **** ** i want to go home, this place is full of nutjobs who want to do harm to me or my family or others.

I dont think all Muslims are extremists and neither do i think that non Muslims also think that, some do yes, but you have just tarred every non Muslim with the same brush, ironic?

My thoughts have changed now though compared to 10-20 years ago.
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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Did you know the US isn't even the other side of the Atlantic? It's actually to rough for our ships so we don't actually know what's the other side, no ship has ever survived! The US is actually to the south of us and ships and planes travel just out of sight of land. I was told this by a pilot and ships captain recently! Apparently the have to sign an order confirming they will never blab before becoming captains.
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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Explain why those who believe those things live in padded cells? :p
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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There are photographs of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. The photo's without wreckage were taken after (and this may be difficult for you to get your head around) the clear up. I know right. Mind > blown :eek:

Your other points are equally silly.
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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And it wasn't the Titanic that sank, it was the Olympic...
 
N17 said:
Explain why there was no wreckage found after the pentagon attacks, explain why explosions were heard prior to the planes hitting the towers, and explain why there is wind on the moon, that was blowing the US flag..............
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I am assuming you also think the Holocaust didnt happen?
 
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