Soldato
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Ah that's awful. Can't imagine having to deal with that.
Very sad news indeed![]()
On a less sad note, someone has thrown a spanner in the works by telling me that the Ambrosio Excellight's are expensive, narrow and maybe not worth it. What rims are good and comfortable? If I want to go down the custom route. Confusion. Someone here also said that the Mavic Open Pro's were a "bit old now".
H plus son archetype are 23mm wide.
Thoughts go with them all, horrible news! Ride safe guys, especially those on foreign roads!Lomond Roads is the club that touch is out there with just now so the poor guy was indeed from that group. They are out cycling in seperate groups doing different things so not sure if touch was present on that ride, but regardelss, it is horrific and the last thing you could ever possibly want to hear from a group of guys going out and doing what they love with their mates.
Expensive = compared to what?someone has thrown a spanner in the works by telling me that the Ambrosio Excellight's are expensive, narrow and maybe not worth it. What rims are good and comfortable? If I want to go down the custom route. Confusion. Someone here also said that the Mavic Open Pro's were a "bit old now".
Quite heavy (1800g+) which makes them slow to pickup speed as most of it is rim weight. Very little info on the hubs though. Although they sound pretty good for that price!These are 18mm internal width, got decent reviews - £200
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/3t-accelero-40-pro-road-wheelset/rp-prod113041

Expensive = compared to what?
Narrow = 15mm internal width, so not 'wide', more of a traditional width.
They're quite light and flexy "not suited to powerful riders" and have a weight limit of 90kg (avoid them if you're commuting with a pack!).
They're not that expensive, DCR stocks them (good info on page).


I'm in the doghouse re. buying those wheels. Proper.
Might go on a longer ride home to try and avoid it. 500km be long enough?
I'm in the doghouse re. buying those wheels. Proper.
Might go on a longer ride home to try and avoid it. 500km be long enough?

haha she put the recycling in there today though... oops. Ninja fail. I was going to put them in the basement tonight with my old wheels and claim they were them, but she got their first. Doomed.H plus son archetype are 23mm wide.
Kinlin getting rave reviews on the couple of builder websites I've read the past few weeks. Infact the 31t is probably the rim I'm looking at for my handbuilt set... Loads of info on DCR here.I hear good things about various kinlin models (they also do narrow stuff too), H Plus Son and the DT R460 is a great budget option at £35/rim
Agreed with 28 spokes they shouldn't flex, but that's a lot of additional weight you don't need on a rim designed to be light just to make it stronger...? Why not just go for the Excellence (stronger & not as light)? Drillings for them both seem strange... 32-36 and 28-32-36, nothing smaller (hinting again at 'classic' builds rather than more modern high tension lighter builds).Just quoting what the guy at Strada Wheels said. He just said expensive. I didn't think £70 for rims was that bad tbh...
Weight limit of 90kg is fine, I'm not commuting with a 23kg pack
With 28 spokes, I would hope nothing is flexy! The internal width goes up to 28mm, I wouldn't want more than that ever on this bike. Max I'd take would be 27s, and I probably would be close on frame clearance.
I'm in the doghouse re. buying those wheels. Proper.
Might go on a longer ride home to try and avoid it. 500km be long enough?
Ha! Come ride here and give them to me - problem solved!I was going to put them in the basement tonight with my old wheels and claim they were them, but she got their first. Doomed.


They were in the boot of my carhaha she put the recycling in there today though... oops. Ninja fail. I was going to put them in the basement tonight with my old wheels and claim they were them, but she got their first. Doomed.


Yup! But no guard mounts and designed more as a CX ride makes me think its quite heavy...
Pretty good for the money too, but no mount points and alu again. There are cheaper alu frames, with mounts![]()

My budget is totally flexible but it will all determine what I have left after our house move... Current place is on the market and the housing market here is mental at the moment so I'm expecting to know in the next 3 months. Ideally I'm keeping ~£8k back for 'emergencies' but I really can't say that's for a bike... Or can I?! lolwhats your budget then?
because if you want discs with mounts, carbon frame etc then you're gunna need to stretch it more! plus good alu over cheap carbon![]()

, I'm in 2 minds between a Point AR type self build to replace my Defy 1 which will incorporate parts of my 5800 groupset to keep costs low then flog the Defy frameset. This would then be my 'day to day & winter' bike before a summer bike purchase next year/in the autumn. The other option is a 'do it all' complete bike to totally replace my Defy 1 with discs, kinda why I was looking at the Diverge/Roubaix but if I can get everything I want (for half the money) with a little more work (replace cable discs for hydra) then it might be a more sensible (budget) option than a £2500+ ride I'm going to ride all weathers... 

Kinlin getting rave reviews on the couple of builder websites I've read the past few weeks. Infact the 31t is probably the rim I'm looking at for my handbuilt set... Loads of info on DCR here.
Roady said:Agreed with 28 spokes they shouldn't flex, but that's a lot of additional weight you don't need on a rim designed to be light just to make it stronger...? Why not just go for the Excellence (stronger & not as light)? Drillings for them both seem strange... 32-36 and 28-32-36, nothing smaller (hinting again at 'classic' builds rather than more modern high tension lighter builds).
I'm in the doghouse re. buying those wheels. Proper.
Might go on a longer ride home to try and avoid it. 500km be long enough?

Care to link me the websites you've been looking at, except for DRC of course.
http://thecycleclinic.co.uk/ - Malcolm loves the kinlin 31t and 22t, so much so he sells them under his own name

