Notice of change of hours at work

UTmaniac said:
Bang out of order texting you this while on vacation in my opinion, if a manager interrupts your UK employment law 20 minute break during a 6+ hour shift, the clock resets on your break.
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Seriously? If so they owe me hours ;) Latest was being asked why I wasn't bothered about the missing key I didn't lose and that I should be! " It would be different if you lost your car key wouldn't it " he didn't like my response of " well yes because it would be my fault, and the car key is £200, not a 30P lucas one that everyone has ". I got solitary work for that one... Bit like solitary in the green mile ;)
 
Moses said:
Yeah, because blatantly lying is always a good idea (I'm assuming he has delivered/read notifications set up, which I think is a reasonable assumption to make).
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Read recpts on WhatsApp messages aren't 100% accurate (i.e. if you have a feed aggregator it will trigger the read recpt even if you haven't read the message) and there are no read recpts for text messages (excepting iMessage on iPhones and you have to explicitly enable "send read recpt").

Did he say he was unhappy with the change? He might be, and just saying that as an fyi.
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It came across as a "I had to, so should you" type of response - which is obviously a nonsense. Just because someone else is a mug/doormat doesn't mean you have to be.
 
Moses said:
is stupid and would erode trust and good will.
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You mean like messaging an employee whilst they're on holiday about an enforced change in hours that has had zero negotiation?

If it's good for the goose..........
 
Sort it out when you are back at work

"I can't see a way for these new hours to work with my childcare requirements, lets arrange a meeting when I'm back at work."

Something like that and then try not to worry about it until you know all the details.
 
opstrat said:
you got what?

please explain this to me?
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Ah for refusing to take some responsibility for a lost key which I had nothing to do with - instead of working in a team to get a large electrical cable in, I got sent off to work on my own doing work fit for a digger. Or rather work that a digger could have done in ten seconds! Myself and another employee often joke about getting put in detention but sadly the place is very much like that.

amigafan2003 said:
You mean like messaging an employee whilst they're on holiday about an enforced change in hours that has had zero negotiation?

If it's good for the goose..........
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This is my whole thought on the matter. I've always said if you've a problem with the network ring me I'll come in. However, never have I said hey if you want to change my hours just drop me a text and i'll obviously accept those changes.

MonkeyMan said:
Sort it out when you are back at work

"I can't see a way for these new hours to work with my childcare requirements, lets arrange a meeting when I'm back at work."

Something like that and then try not to worry about it until you know all the details.
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I have whatsapp read receipts off, purely to stop my irritating sister nagging me when I don't have time to reply to a million questions about her computer/phone/ any other technology!

Caged said:
You work for clowns. Increase your efforts to get out.
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Yes, yes I do. I'll link my previous thread then you can all tell me how stupid I am for still being there ;)
 
Sounds like they need you more than you need them (they know they are on to a good thing with all the other **** they've pulled that you've done nothing about) so just say "nope, I can't do that due to child care commitments".

What are they going to do? Sack you? And if they did, you'd be laughing all the way to an employment tribunal over an un-negotiated enforced contract (that you don't have) change.

You're in the stronger position here - don't let them bully you.
 
atpbx said:
I work for a company with a billion pound plus annual turnover- we use whatsapp for the management team.
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Your statement still doesn't make it any less unprofessional. I work for a company that makes 700m profit per year on 1.7 billion turnover, we don't use whatsapp. Do I win?
 
dannyjo22 said:
Your statement still doesn't make it any less unprofessional. I work for a company that makes 700m profit per year on 1.7 billion turnover, we don't use whatsapp. Do I win?
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Loads of companies use whatsapp.

Like facebook it's a great way for them to force communications on you :p
 
Firstly whilst they can change your contract if argued that it's for the needs of the business, which they would need to prove. I also thought that they would have to give a minimum of 12 weeks notice, and surely a reason such as childcare issues would overrule this.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Your statement still doesn't make it any less unprofessional. I work for a company that makes 700m profit per year on 1.7 billion turnover, we don't use whatsapp. Do I win?
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I used to work for Hewlett Packard ($111bn turnover) and we used WhatsApp on occasion.

I win.

WhatsApp also just got more professional with end-to-end encryption.
 
amigafan2003 said:
I used to work for Hewlett Packard ($111bn turnover) and we used WhatsApp on occasion.

I win.

WhatsApp also just got more professional with end-to-end encryption.
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That'll probably be why they never reply to my damn emails to get things sorted at work! :mad::p

My company will never have my personal number nor would I respond whilst I'm on holiday especially with a message stating a change of hours.

Respond when you get back from holiday requesting a formal meeting to discuss, and get a contract sorted!
 
dannyjo22 said:
You lose.
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u wot m8?

ThaReaperGuy said:
My company will never have my personal number nor would I respond whilst I'm on holiday especially with a message stating a change of hours.
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They had my personal number but only for emergencies but we used the social media apps on out work phones, but I only checked them in work hours and outside of those hours I only responded to calls when I was on call. All other times it got switched off.
 
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wez130 said:
Surely as a parent, and having been there 5 years (aka you have rights), your employer MUST be flexible if you request, they must have solid grounds to refuse your request, (loss of income for employer etc)

http://www.workingfamilies.org.uk/a...g-after-30th-july-2014-a-guide-for-employees/
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The only thing they have to do is ATTEMPT to make reasonable adjustments, which quite clearly they haven't in this case - how could they if they haven't even attempted to discuss before imposing the change? You only have the right to REQUEST flexible working, not the right to be granted it. If the emplyer refuses, it has to from a limited list of specified reasons - if they give a reason outside those specified, they'll get bent over at an employment tribunal (I know, I've done it three times - you'd think they'd have learnt after the first couple!).

If I was a union rep there, I'd take them to the cleaners. But - and this is entirely a guess - I bet there isn't a union presence there. I wonder why they think they can get away with it?

Makes me laugh when people say "oh, unions aren't needed any more with the good employment laws we have now". Well, those laws are only any use if you make your employer accountable to them, which rarely happens in 1 employee vs employer cases.
 
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