Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .
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Former Aussie PM, John Howard backs Brexit.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Howard said: “The European project is fundamentally flawed. I think its best days are probably behind it and there will be increasing tensions [over migration]. Britain can’t control its borders — it is ridiculous to say it can.”

“If I were British, which I’m not, I’d vote to leave,” he added. “You have lost your sovereignty.”
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He added that while Britain stays in the EU it is not free to agree its own trade deals.

“We [Australia] have just completed three trade agreements [China, South Korea and Japan] and Britain can’t do that… it has to go through Brussels.”
 

One of these guys was on World at 1 yesterday. He basically said all the hard facts are true, but the "judgements" (e.g. the government believes...) are slightly sketchy in places. The pamphlet contains a mixture of both. No surprise, but nice that people are checking.
 
Same. This raises a similar question about the polls from the elections. I was asking the same question about the polls then. Leave really will take this.

Same with me, I don't know anybody voting to stay in from family/Friends/Colleagues etc.

Pretty strange the polls are the way they are.
 
Office of 40 here, 4 outs, 36 in. The 4 outs are all under 23.

I think it depends heavily on where you live rather than age, as well as what industry you are in or have experience in.

All this BS dismissing students and younger people for wanting to stay and calling the older people more experienced in the matter is ridiculous. You will find the older generation will know just as little as the younger generation.

I sorta wish this vote would come round much sooner before the media and hype go away and public interest of those who dont often vote fizzles to nothing.
 
Office of 40 here, 4 outs, 36 in. The 4 outs are all under 23.

I think it depends heavily on where you live rather than age, as well as what industry you are in or have experience in.

All this BS dismissing students and younger people for wanting to stay and calling the older people more experienced in the matter is ridiculous. You will find the older generation will know just as little as the younger generation.

I sorta wish this vote would come round much sooner before the media and hype go away and public interest of those who dont often vote fizzles to nothing.

I think it depends on your industry to be honest. You mentioned you were involved in science didn't you? So presumably the others in your office are all worried about the implications of an exit for funding reasons.
 
Same with me, I don't know anybody voting to stay in from family/Friends/Colleagues etc.

Pretty strange the polls are the way they are.

Would you consider your circle to be diverse and large enough to give a valid sample?

I know hardly anyone voting to leave but I know that my friends, colleagues and family aren't representative of the population as a whole.
 
You might want to check your facts there sport - John Howard is a former politician.

And it's the fact he was a politician (a former PM no less) is the only reason you are trying to give credence to his point of view, so what bayo000 says stands

You didn't post up 'Rob from Ramsay Street thinks the UK should leave the EU'
 
I think it depends on your industry to be honest. You mentioned you were involved in science didn't you? So presumably the others in your office are all worried about the implications of an exit for funding reasons.

I was a researcher but now i do I.T, Tech and assist operations management in a small business of about 50-60 people that has shops around the UK, mail order and also deals with internal and external trade.

Leaving would hurt our trade side a fair bit and significantly effect the margins of every other part of the business.
 
And it's the fact he was a politician (a former PM no less) is the only reason you are trying to give credence to his point of view, so what bayo000 says stands

You didn't post up 'Rob from Ramsay Street thinks the UK should leave the EU'

No it doesn't - it fundamentally changes the context of the interview. Current politicians - the ones with actual positions of power anyway - are bound by the foreign policy of the state they represent. Former politicians aren't and have a greater degree of freedom in what they say. That's why it was so outrageous for President Obama, as a Head of State to interfere in the democratic process of the UK. John Howard's views are presumably his own so he's free to state them. I know this is a bit subtle, and some of the remainers might have trouble understanding it, but this is the understanding of political systems around the world.
 
Nope, left the industry, though i do get involved every once in a while giving opinions to media on things related to my centres of study. I have a triplet brother and sister who are still in Physics though. Their research is being privately funded by people linked with the universities their research centres are located at, though their teams are still heavily made up of foreigners who would have not had the opportunity to get to where they are now without the EU.

Though the industry i am in now arguably would be more adversely affected if we left the EU, i could just go get another job without issue. My concern with science is that we will no longer be one of the countries leading the scientific world and dropping the prestige of that status would massively effect where people choose to base research and go to study to advance the subject.
 
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Somebody should probably tell Howard we already have a deal with South Korea, and the other two are in the pipeline. But I suppose he meant 'I'm a bit Conservative and I approve this message on behalf of my friends'. Two can play this Commonwealth game however.

Meet John Key, PM of New Zealand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35943388

At a meeting with David Cameron, John Key said: "If we had the equivalent of Europe on our doorstep ... we certainly wouldn't be looking to leave it."

Mr Cameron described the comments as "important". New Zealand wants to sign a free trade deal with the EU.

Counter-claims by Leave are in the article. April Fools'? I think not. And let's just say, that in a side-to-side wheel-out-a-leader barrage the Brexit navy shall be well and truly sunk.
 
Somebody should probably tell Howard we already have a deal with South Korea, and the other two are in the pipeline. But I suppose he meant 'I'm a bit Conservative and I approve this message on behalf of my friends'. Two can play this Commonwealth game however.

Meet John Key, PM of New Zealand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35943388

Do we have a deal with South Korea? or does the EU have a deal and how does it benefit the British economy?

See above point about current politicians. Do you not think the fact that he said this at a meeting with David Cameron is significant?
 
I'm still very much undecided. I like the idea of being in a competitive market but since we've lost most of our manufacturing output, i'm concerned about the cost importing and what this will do for the economy long term. I like the idea of tighter border control but then again, this has an impact on import/export cost, travel and transport. I just don't think we are strong enough on our own.. We just aren't competitive enough.

Personally, I don't think there should be a referendum. We have a paid parliament that we put trust into to raise all the necessary debates (for and against) to come up with the best solution. I think too many people will vote for the wrong reasons and lack of understanding. Just an opinion.
 
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