English over politeness...

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lets me just start by saying that this is not an attack against politeness. I like people saying please, thank you, and holding doors open when you are behind them. What I am talking about is the English penchant for many of the people who do those nice things going uncomfortably overboard with them.

I'm not sure whether I have lived away from the UK for too long or if is a reasonably recent cultural development, but in the last 6 months each time I come back to Old Blighty for work I am noticing the following:

1)
People standing there and waiting to hold open the door for you when you are about 20-30m behind them. You then feel obliged to do a quickstep and hurry up to get through asap, or stay at the same pace and watching them fill your vision for the next 10 agonisingly slow seconds, waiting expectantly. What happened to taking a look behind, making a snap judgement on how close someone is, and then if too far just going through the door and letting them open it themselves? Common sense, please. I may try walking slower and seeing what happens. :D

2) Letting other people through a door. In theory this is also nice when done properly. However, that is until you get the type of person that feels they have to wave you through even when you have first visibly stopped to let them through. What then follows is a "no, you first", "no, please, you" until someone finally relents. Is it a politeness competition? Most gentlemanly award? I cringe inwardly each time. :o

3) SAYING SORRY FOR EVERYTHING. Seriously, it is starting to drive me up the wall being apologised to around thirty times per day. Someone has to pass by within 1 metre of you in the office? "Sorry". Someone reaches for something that you are not even in the way of? "Sorry". And what makes me laugh even more is that some people combine this into one epic: "sorrycheersthanks". Yes... sorry, cheers, and thanks. All blended into one catch-all word describing every possible feeling that could be evoked by their actions.

So, in summary... politeness is good, but this faux-over politeness that people seem to do without knowing why, thus creating socially awkward situations is really causing me to scratch my head and wonder what is going on. Do us Brits have an ingrained sense of social anxiety about not appearing polite enough? Do we (those that are actually polite) try too hard when doing so? Have we just lost the ability to make good common sense decisions in the burgeoning wave of uber-PC mania washing over our society?

One thing I can say for sure that in the countries I have lived or worked in, this is pretty unique to Britain. Other countries don't over-think it to the borderline obsession we display, they just do it (or not, as the case my be) according to their own instinctive levels of common sense and things just aren't awkward.

Answers on a postcard please, as well as any funny stories or observations you have from your own experience. :)
 
I think for me, it's seen as rude not to do them things..

I am one for saying sorry quite a bit for mundane things, but it seems better to me than to remain in silence.
 
The saying sorry for anything is something I notice to be very Canadian - I have a few Canadian friends and my cousin is married to a Canadian and they do say sorry for unnecessary things... i.e. someone bumps into them "sorry!"

I like that part of the Brits, but I'm just un-British enough not to have too many of those idiosyncrasies! However, when I do visit family in the other parts of the world they do say that "You're ever so British!" - which is amusing! :D
 
I say sorrycheersthanks sometimes when I'm in a fluster. :p

Heh.

The saying sorry for anything is something I notice to be very Canadian - I have a few Canadian friends and my cousin is married to a Canadian and they do say sorry for unnecessary things... i.e. someone bumps into them "sorry!"

Well, if you bump into someone (whether your fault or not) then it's kind of understandable as your initial reaction is often that because you don't know whose fault it was. I'm talking more about pre-meditated over politeness. :D
 
It's "Thank you VERY much" that grits me. I can't stop myself doing it. Why do I need that very every time!
 
Heh.



Well, if you bump into someone (whether your fault or not) then it's kind of understandable as your initial reaction is often that because you don't know whose fault it was. I'm talking more about pre-meditated over politeness. :D

I don't say sorry if someone bumps into me :( I'm a very bad person! :D

But yes, I totally understand your point, it's almost painful to watch someone hold doors open "just in case"... However, I'd rather that than people who are so ignorant and don't pay any attention at what is going on around them or have their eyes glued to their phones.
 
FF, next time I see you at a meet I am going to hold open every door for you while making awkward eye contact.
 
At my GF's in Switzerland pretty much everyone around where she lived said grutze or guete morge

Started to become annoying fast, I like the impolite british people.

also on a bus/tram/train people always ask if they can sit next to you, just sit there FFS!
 
FF, next time I see you at a meet I am going to hold open every door for you while making awkward eye contact.

That's fine don't expect me to say thanks :p

(Who am I kidding, I'd say thank you and feel embarrassed that you had to hold the door open for me... no... wait, I'm only part British!! :p)
 
I prefer people to be over polite than rotten mother flippers!

Held the door open for a bloke the other day, and he walked through without even acknowledging me, no thanks, no eye contact. Bloody wrongen.

I know I say sorry to much, playing 5 a side, i apologise for everything. It doesn't help im tat at football so every ball goes way of course, but still I do like to say sorry.
 
Manners are what make us civilized. So as pointless and frustrating as they may sometimes be, they at least keep us from tearing one another's throats out with our bare teeth.

At least for today.
 
I'm extremely guilty of all three of your points. The open door shuffle is very common around here as there are doors everywhere in my office building.

I'm sorry for being overly polite :(
 
I run out of ways to say thank you when someone holds a door open for me, in the run up to the door, passing through it and after I've got through :(
 
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