Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

[datalol-jack]

Itchy -- you absolute legend!

I do question the pro EU crowd here as they seem to have a lot of time to post.

Not too busy then I suppose!

This is the internet, after all. If you have a sudden urge to question anything, question 4chan.

I can scan the forum but I have very little time to post as am busy with life and work.

Don't worry, we'll fax you any relevant updates. We understand that professional trolling requires utmost devotion.

I don't care for qualifications or education, as this has no real impact on what is happening.

Not even wrong... and it shows!

Sometimes you need to step out the box and look under the rug.

Cleaning up one's act generally helps, yes.

Obama is not even an American so go figure.

Boris is not 'really' British.

Just follow the money if you know what I mean, if you don't then get learning.

From the school of hard knocks, no doubt? I somehow doubt that HMRC accept certificates in mass hysteria in lieu of formal qualifications these days.

 

[Gux]

It has nothing to do with America so WTF?

What has America got to do with the EU?

Tipp maybe?

Pro EU crowd are clueless and it does make me chuckle a little with some of the arguments.

If you actually know how things work, which I have delved into very deeply into you will see.

Cannot see the wood for the trees, so to say.

So because it has nothing to do with America, he is not allowed to express an opinion on it? Last time I check, the western world lives in a free society with freedom of speech being one of the strongest principles we have.

What about UK government discussing US politics & Donald Trump in parliament a few months ago??? I guess that was OK right? (ps. It was)

This whole referendum is pointless anyway. We simply won't leave. You got 1.2+ million UK nationals living in the EU on permanent basis (majority will vote to stay IMHO), Most of Scotland & Wales population are for the EU. England alone is mostly split 50/50, which is not enough to give it the majority. And the swing required to leave, simply won't materialize IMHO.

There will be a lot of salty tears on June 24th on this forum and I am already stacking pop corn for that day. Should be epic

 

[datalol-jack]

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Pro EU crowd are clueless and it does make me chuckle a little with some of the arguments.

If you actually know how things work, which I have delved into very deeply into you will see.

Cannot see the wood for the trees, so to say.

That's pretty deep. Show us, oh great master!

 

[Amp34]

It has nothing to do with America so WTF?

What has America got to do with the EU?

Tipp maybe?

Pro EU crowd are clueless and it does make me chuckle a little with some of the arguments.

If you actually know how things work, which I have delved into very deeply into you will see.

Cannot see the wood for the trees, so to say.

Trade deals with the US have everything to do with the US...

He has basically shut down one of the brexiteer arguments regarding trade deals, pointing out its not just that simple. Seems perfectly reasonable, rather than a load of Brits arguing between each other someone that actually knows the system in the US provides information.

The fact so many pro "out" supporters both didn't want him to say anything and now complain that he has "butted in" says something about them - specifically quashing debate and legitimate points that don't fit their argument.

 

[Woden]

There will be a lot of salty tears on June 24th on this forum and I am already stacking pop corn for that day. Should be epic

There's brexiteers already saying the vote will be rigged and we won't be allowed to leave.

 

[phil675]

Reminder that if we do vote leave, by the time we get out, Barack 'British Petroleum have gone too far' Obama will be long gone from the White House.

 

[Cosimo]

Reminder that if we do vote leave, by the time we get out, Barack 'British Petroleum have gone too far' Obama will be long gone from the White House.

Can't see a dramatic change in US trade policy unless DT gets elected, then who knows.

Next look into the crystal ball please...

 

[phil675]

Can't see a dramatic change in US trade policy unless DT gets elected, then who knows.

Next look into the crystal ball please...

Lol is nobody allowed to speculate anymore without getting the crystal ball comment?

Obama's butthurt over Britain's holiday in Kenya has been well demonstrated, of course a new president will change that, we are also talking a time frame of at least 2 years after the referendum.

 

[sityeuropa]

People need to see the bigger picture. What is the union going to look like in 10 years?

People only questioning how much worse off we will be immediately after Brexit, rather than how screwed over and powerless we will be in 10 years.

 

[Mulder]

Why should anyone care if Britain leaves, unless Britain is influential... Which it is.

Wrong.

Britain is important to the EU, but not influential in running it. We send £13bn a year to them (currently, who knows how high it will be in 10/20+ years) but most important of all; there's a good chance other countries will want out if we go. The Eurozone is on its knees, most EU economies other than Germany (and Britain, until we leave) have negative growth, very high unemployment, large structural deficits and are heading for another major crisis.

Our "deal" was a token to try and make us stay so others won't leave, as they increasingly want to do.

You're really kidding yourself if you think Britain has influence in the EU.

You must be trolling with some of these posts. What does increasing amount mean? 10% yearly? 0.1%? 0.0001%?? Switzerland is in the EU Single Market and services sold to the EU Single Market account for more than 30% of the total. What does growth have to do with anything? Do you just post random links when there's a vague connection to your point? You want Britain to sell services to Botswana, Tajikistan, Iraq and the rest of the **** holes on that list? Good luck with that.

Nah, you're the troll. Did you read the list? Presumably you didn't see the likes of China, India, Panama, Bangladesh, Indonesia etc. These countries are some of the fastest growing in the world, and our trade with them is being strangled by leaving it up to the bureaucrats to negotiate for us, which they do a terrible job of, particularly for services.

The EU is only 30% of our services exports, at the moment, but no doubt as the Eurozone heads for another crisis that will diminish and the areas of growth will be the countries above.

You people want to not only economically tie us to a failing, economically stagnant block, you want political union as well. Good luck with that.

 

[BuffetSlayer]

People only questioning how much worse off we will be immediately after Brexit, rather than how screwed over and powerless we will be in 10 years.

This is my main concern. Whilst the EU does have perhaps more control than it probably should over our laws and regulation and it does cost a lot of money, I can't help but feel that at the same time is also offers a lot of protection for people at the bottom of the pile in terms of employment rights and human rights.

If we exit, we will cut the chains that restrain the government and we won't really have any way to challenge future decisions that could be made.

I don't have a crystal ball and it is purely conjecture, but I definitely feel the average man in the street is going to fall on harder times if we exit.

But perhaps it is what we need? Take a step back to take two forwards? It is difficult to know.

 

[Mulder]

What does growth have to do with anything?

Lol, you should really do some homework on the economic case for Brexit, you might be convinced. Growth is what many parts of the world have, but most EU countries don't. I can't wait for an ever closer union with the below:

 

[jas72]

I see Boris is at it again.

At the start he said 15-50% of UK laws are made by the EU

I see now he's upped it to 60%.

Imagine throwing insults at the US President, the guy is a reprobate the leave campaign must be pulling it's hair out with this fool.

Anyone with an ounce of education can see he's talking nonsense.

The actual figure is around 13%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36112694

 

[Metallifux]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-opportunity-strengthen-special-relationship/

Yes I know it's Breitbart, take however many pinches of salt you feel necessary.

 

[Mr Jack]

The Eurozone is on its knees, most EU economies other than Germany (and Britain, until we leave) have negative growth, very high unemployment, large structural deficits and are heading for another major crisis.

Most EU countries are growing; most Eurozone countries are growing; and the Eurozone as a whole is growing and has been in every quarter since mid 2013.

There are issues in the economies of the Eurozone and wider Europe; they are not so desperate as you suggest. Meanwhile there is near universal agreement among economists that Brexit will damage UK growth.

 

[datalol-jack]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-opportunity-strengthen-special-relationship/

Yes I know it's Breitbart, take however many pinches of salt you feel necessary.

It's nice to see the Republican field moving on from peoples' hands, wives and protectionism.

I see Boris is at it again.

At the start he said 15-50% of UK laws are made by the EU

I see now he's upped it to 60%.

Imagine throwing insults at the US President, the guy is a reprobate the leave campaign must be pulling it's hair out with this fool.

Anyone with an ounce of education can see he's talking nonsense.

The actual figure is around 13%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36112694

Same reason he won't lay off the 350 mil gimmick: big numbers look good, bombast is all he has and the nasty Mr Tyrie isn't around to give him a good spanking.

 

[Tunney]

Reminder that if we do vote leave, by the time we get out, Barack 'British Petroleum have gone too far' Obama will be long gone from the White House.

Obama clearly didn't say what you've put in quotation marks. For a start, there's been no such company as British Petroleum since 1998.

 

[Usher]

How loliferous is the use of Obama's words' back of the queue' so obviously typed out by Cameron for him to read the last word is not even in the USA's general vocabulary -they say 'end of the line'

 

[datalol-jack]

Obama clearly didn't say what you've put in quotation marks. For a start, there's been no such company as British Petroleum since 1998.

You insult me with your facts, sir!

How loliferous is the use of Obama's words' back of the queue' so obviously typed out by Cameron for him to read the last word is not even in the USA's general vocabulary -they say 'end of the line'

Or more likely the speech writer wasn't a culturally dim numpty.

 

[phil675]

Obama clearly didn't say what you've put in quotation marks. For a start, there's been no such company as British Petroleum since 1998.

I distinctly remember words to that effect and yes not since 1998 which made it so odd that he said it.

Is The Guardian good enough for you?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2010/jun/14/obama-britain-bp-michael-white

But the president and some senior officials have been referring to BP as "British Petroleum" – a name it hasn't used for some years – and hammering Tony Hayward, BP's highly-visible CEO (where was the Swedish chairman?), so I think we can assume they'd spotted scope for some foreigner-bashing.