LGBT Magazine Editor Hacked to Death

[dirtychinchilla]

Christians, I think, are highly cuplpable for this sort of thing. If you go back a few hundred years, in cultures undiscovered by the west, different people were celebrated, not targetted.

 

[oulton]

This is why you need a good firewall and online security.

burn!!!!

 

[oulton]

What's lgbt?

lettuce, greens, bacon tomato? Not quite as good as the classic blt.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Christians, I think, are highly cuplpable for this sort of thing. If you go back a few hundred years, in cultures undiscovered by the west, different people were celebrated, not targetted.

Homosexuality has been regarded as immoral in as good as every major religion. It was certainly never accepted in Islam.

 

[Johno please?]

Funny how we don't see many threads about white males raping babies, happens all the time yet the media never reports on it. These Islam bashing threads are sooo boring.

Funny how we never hear about old grannies being robbed either.... we're talking about the murder of a person by someone else motovated by their religion, thats why.

 

[Tefal]

Homosexuality has been regarded as immoral in as good as every major religion. It was certainly never accepted in Islam.

Anticent greeks and romans seemed ok with it all before christianity came along.

Basicaly the whole anti gay thing seems to be some middleeastern idea exported by the 3 big backwarda middle eastern religions in thier expansion across the world.

 

[Dr Jack]

Killed for being different in a backwards country, what goes through these people's heads?

It's a good thing things like this never happen in the UK.

 

[Sliver]

C'mon everybody, lets get together and try and love one another right now.... cue Dave Grohl on drums and rock your socks off.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Anticent greeks and romans seemed ok with it all before christianity came along.

Basicaly the whole anti gay thing seems to be some middleeastern idea exported by the 3 big backwarda middle eastern religions in thier expansion across the world.

Exactly. In India, homosexuals and hemaphrodites were celebrated. They seem to love their equivalent of drag queens etc. Same in Africa. No doubt the same in various other places.

Guess what the common factor for the turnaround of this is - the invasion of the west and influence of Christianity.

 

[Sliver]

Exactly. In India, homosexuals and hemaphrodites were celebrated. They seem to love their equivalent of drag queens etc. Same in Africa. No doubt the same in various other places.

Guess what the common factor for the turnaround of this is - the invasion of the west and influence of Christianity.

Are you proposing religion can be pernicious? Oo sir you are naughty.

 

[zoomee]

Funny how we don't see many threads about white males raping babies, happens all the time yet the media never reports on it. These Islam bashing threads are sooo boring.

Perpetrated by the usual handful - Arazi being one of them.
LGBT persecution in Israel recently didn't warrant its own thread, he's only interested in stirring it on these forums - look at all his posts and I rest my case.

Forgets about everything until it mentions the muslamics then has him and the usuals here frothing at the mouth like Nigel Farage and his Britain First buddies.

Thankfully its only a select few.

Back on Topic:

Its quite interesting that most of the attacks recorded against the LGBT communities are actually in the western 'democratic' countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_acts_of_violence_against_LGBT_people

 

[Dr Jack]

Its quite interesting that most of the attacks recorded against the LGBT communities are actually in the western 'democratic' countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_acts_of_violence_against_LGBT_people

When the oppression of your hate figures is state sanctioned there is little reason to take things into your own hands? Or, alternatively, when your oppression of your hate figures is state sanctioned it doesn't get reported by your victims?

 

[RDM]

When the oppression of your hate figures is state sanctioned there is little reason to take things into your own hands? Or, alternatively, when your oppression of your hate figures is state sanctioned it doesn't get reported by your victims?

Indeed, if you get 3 years in prison and 450 lashes for trying to arrange a date over Twitter it is unlikely you will report any abuse.

The Abrahamic religions can be pretty unpleasant at times.

 

[Tefal]

Exactly. In India, homosexuals and hemaphrodites were celebrated. They seem to love their equivalent of drag queens etc. Same in Africa. No doubt the same in various other places.

Guess what the common factor for the turnaround of this is - the invasion of the west and influence of Christianity.

Not just christianity its all 3 of the abrahamic religions.

Just spreading backwards middleeastern ideals

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Anticent greeks and romans seemed ok with it all before christianity came along.

I've been over this before. It's very tedious going over it again so I'll be brief:

The Greeks were not a single state, they were a range of states existing over several centuries. To say that the "Greeks" were "ok with it" is extremely misleading. Which Greeks, when?

Homosexuality between peers was generally regarded as unacceptable, and the passive partner (the "catcher") would be considered to have shamed themselves by adopting the role of a woman. Anal sex between men was almost universally regarded as unacceptable.

The "homosexuality" that was considered acceptable was between a man and a youth (pubescent male). Whether this involved any sex is unclear, I suppose that depends how you define "sex". What many modern scholars believe to have sometimes occurred is the man thrusting between the youths thighs. No penetration.

So this issue is very complex and by no means as straightforward as you suggest. The Greeks certainly had different attitudes to sexuality, but this idea that it was an LGBT paradise is deeply flawed.

 

[Sliver]

Not just christianity its all 3 of the abrahamic religions.

Just spreading backwards middleeastern ideals

I've noticed that Judaism, Religion 1.0, has 15 million Jews but half of them are cultural Jews, peaceful, prosperous and calm . Jews do well in America, in California in particular, in Hollywood and Israel aside, they seem quite nice. Then there is Religion 2.0, Christianity, also doing well in America, apart from the odd abortion clinic bombing and the Creationism school syllabus fiasco, but doing ok, not angry, just simmering, keeping the kettle hot. . And now we have Religion 3.0, it's the latest release, wink wink, Islam. Just starting out in America. Not doing too well. Been some issues with planes flying into buildings and shootings and the occasional beheadings and numerous failed terrorist plots, kinda boiling over, not settled, a little annoyed.

Now that we have accumulated all 3 Abrahamic religions in one giant melting pot, where do we go from here? America is waking up to a period I'm sure history will reflect on, of atheism. Polls show, that the largest growing minority are atheists, but they don't have a voice YET. So, in one place on Earth we have the 3 Abrahamic faiths living side by side with atheists all checking out the water slides and the Casino's, and I wonder where this will lead America as it evolves and information, FACTS, reason, science and faiths, what will be the outcome? Because when the dust settles way off in the future, it could be that America's chief export to the world will be knowledge, not democracy. And I find that interesting because as global amassed information permeates around the world, people will naturally gravitate toward it. Knowledge and it's technologies that spring forth from it raises the playing field for everyone and as we all become more connected via trade and sport and politics, we amalgamate, we condense and our differences start to disappear. We are heading forward toward a global family. Europe is condensing, as will the Middle East, China, India, Brazil, all working toward less barriers and more opportunity's for trade and culture.

A few hundred years ahead, if we haven't destroyed our green planet, we might find our selves living as a global community without borders where the currency of prosperity is knowledge, shared globally for the benefit of everyone and the enrichment of a unified planet Earth. Information trading on Stock Markets, technology used to bring all people together under one flag.

 

[Tefal]

I've been over this before. It's very tedious going over it again so I'll be brief:

The Greeks were not a single state, they were a range of states existing over several centuries. To say that the "Greeks" were "ok with it" is extremely misleading. Which Greeks, when?

Homosexuality between peers was generally regarded as unacceptable, and the passive partner (the "catcher") would be considered to have shamed themselves by adopting the role of a woman. Anal sex between men was almost universally regarded as unacceptable.

The "homosexuality" that was considered acceptable was between a man and a youth (pubescent male). Whether this involved any sex is unclear, I suppose that depends how you define "sex". What many modern scholars believe to have sometimes occurred is the man thrusting between the youths thighs. No penetration.

So this issue is very complex and by no means as straightforward as you suggest. The Greeks certainly had different attitudes to sexuality, but this idea that it was an LGBT paradise is deeply flawed.

Your god kills people of they refuse to shag thier dead brothers wife.

Its very hard to take yoy seriously when you belive that kind of thing to be acceltable from your all knowing creator.

 

[Arazi]

is what this Islamaphobic community relishes. You don't see people posting and taking the same level of interest in the treatment towards gays in Uganda - A Christian country!!

One of a few backward Christian countries compared to Islam, seeing as you brought Islamaphobia into it as usual.

Out of curiosity, what is the Islamic name for a phobia of Christianity?

Whatever it is, i am pretty sure it is rife in most of the middle east, don't you?

 

[Destination]

It's a good thing things like this never happen in the UK.

Lets quote JEFFERY DONALDSON MP last night for example.
He compared making a cake with a gay slogan to be comparable and indeed the same thing as making a cake promoting the mutilation and butchery of people during the troubles.

 

[Sliver]

Lets quote JEFFERY DONALDSON MP last night for example.
He compared making a cake with a gay slogan to be comparable and indeed the same thing as making a cake promoting the mutilation and butchery of people during the troubles.

Well clearly he is an idiot. But Idiots sometimes make valid points. Not in this case. I think the point he made for me is that cakes and promoting the mutilation and butchery of people during the troubles, is an equivocation fallacy.