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Should NVidia give their customers more ?

Kaapstad

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As in the title

"Should NVidia give their customers more ?"

What I mean by this is if you look at the GTX 980 Ti it is a very good card but NVidia could do more for their customers.

We are now getting close to the end of 28nm so why have NVidia not started making the 980 Ti with all it's SMX modules enabled. This would cost NVidia practically nothing except for a slight change in packaging. It would also be a nice bonus for anyone who does get a new card this late in the game.

Above is just a single example but do you think NVidia should do more ?
 
Kaapstad said:
As in the title

We are now getting close to the end of 28nm so why have NVidia not started making the 980 Ti with all it's SMX modules enabled.

Above is just a single example but do you think NVidia should do more ?
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Its called a Titian X

Kaapstad said:
This would cost NVidia practically nothing except for a slight change in packaging.
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Wrong, the GM200 is a massive die, bigger the die the less you can get on a silicon wafer. There are always defects on some of the dies, these are normally used in cut down products eg the 980ti and would be impossible in most cases to just switch the defective CU's back on. Less working dies = more expensive to make.

We have not been able to do anything like reflashing a card to enabled parts of a chip like that since the Radeon 9500 days, even then it didn't always work for the reasons above.

AMD do the same thing even Hawaii XT does not have all the CU's enabled, and Tonga while having a 256bit bus has been seen to have a 386bit bus on the die.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Its called a Titian X



Wrong, the GM200 is a massive die, bigger the die the less you can get on a silicon wafer. There are always defects on some of the dies, these are normally used in cut down products eg the 980ti and would be impossible in most cases to just switch the defective CU's back on. Less working dies = more expensive to make.

We have not been able to do anything like reflashing a card to enabled parts of a chip like that since the Radeon 9500 days, even then it didn't always work for the reasons above.

AMD do the same thing even Hawaii XT does not have all the CU's enabled, and Tonga while having a 256bit bus has been seen to have a 386bit bus on the die.
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Yields did not stop NVidia selling 780 Ti cards as kepler came to an end.

By now NVidia have probably had plenty of full fat defect free GM200 chips they don't know what to do with and could quite easily offer these fully enabled along with 6gb of memory.

Lets face it NVidia are not selling a lot of TXs these days.
 
i dont care which side does it but they need to get mgpu working in the majority of games
it feels like we are going to be waiting years for smooth 4k
why are gpu's so far behind what screens can do :(
 
Mei said:
i dont care which side does it but they need to get mgpu working in the majority of games
it feels like we are going to be waiting years for smooth 4k
why are gpu's so far behind what screens can do :(
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Hasn't that always been the case though?
 
Kaapstad said:
As in the title

"Should NVidia give their customers more ?"

What I mean by this is if you look at the GTX 980 Ti it is a very good card but NVidia could do more for their customers.

We are now getting close to the end of 28nm so why have NVidia not started making the 980 Ti with all it's SMX modules enabled. This would cost NVidia practically nothing except for a slight change in packaging. It would also be a nice bonus for anyone who does get a new card this late in the game.

Above is just a single example but do you think NVidia should do more ?
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If their new cards come with DP1.3 there is no excuse the lack of vesa adaptive sync, other than money grabbing to push gsync
 
i dont think so no >.<;
1080p was the norm for a long time so i understand its a big jump needed
but the demand is only going to get more with 4k getting cheaper and refresh rates getting higher

there's not a single card that can 4k still and 2 cards is a waste of money right now :(
 
Mei said:
i dont think so no >.<;
1080p was the norm for a long time so i understand its a big jump needed
but the demand is only going to get more with 4k getting cheaper and refresh rates getting higher

there's not a single card that can 4k still and 2 cards is a waste of money right now :(
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???

Depends on what you think is acceptable frams at 4k.

a Single 290x can run darksouls 3 at 30+ FPS for example. (its what i use)

for me that's perfectly playable, same fps as the PS4...
 
"Should NVidia give their customers more ?"

You are expecting too much of them...I would settle for the asking "Should Nvidia stop giving their customers less?"

Look at how they reduced the core counts when they rebranded the 670 to 760 vs how AMD rebrand 7950 to 280; or how they butchered the memory make-up of the 980 to make the 970 as they deem reduce core counts alone wasn't enough...they are clearly thinking in the mindset of "can't have it too good for the users, or it might take them longer to come back to us for their next upgrade" :p
 
A lot of people expect that whenever amd release something better than nvidia that nvidia will always have something left to claim that spot back. Where is it this time?

I do think they should give us more. Look at the ram for example. Why can amd have 8gb but nvidia gota pay 2x price for 75% of the ram?
 
So close to release of pascal not now it's too late as what do nvidia do? Charge 980 Ti price and drop the price down of the regular Ti? Then when pascal 1080 comes out at around £450 and beats both What can they do? The Ti beat amds best offering so they had no reason to bring out a full fledged Ti as it would canabalise sales of titan x even more than what the original 980 Ti done. 780 Ti was only released because of 290x offering titan performance at half the cost
 
D1craig said:
A lot of people expect that whenever amd release something better than nvidia that nvidia will always have something left to claim that spot back. Where is it this time?

I do think they should give us more. Look at the ram for example. Why can amd have 8gb but nvidia gota pay 2x price for 75% of the ram?
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Bit simplistic dont you think?
Sticking 12gb on a 980ti wouldnt make it any faster for the vast majority of people buying them, so what would be the point. Meanwhile AMD's top cards come with 4GB, but have a dig at nvidia for "only" having 6?
 
Tessallation slider to make hair works usable, FPS limiter just to keep the cards cooler and of course Adaptive Sync support within the up coming range would be nice additions.
 
No point releasing a fully enabled Maxwell card when Pascal is so close to launch. Maxwell production has reportedly stopped and the shelf life of a fully enabled Maxwell GM200 would have been extremely short seen as it is likely that even the flagship mid ranged pascal will be faster than a Titan X.
 
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