German shepherd pinned my collie to the floor

Had similar happen to my labradoodle last November. Was walking him at the local park, on his lead and as I got near the fenced in play area (slides n swings etc), a woman who lives near me was inside the play area pushing her kid on the swing but had decided to let her boxer run loose outside of this play area. It came straight at us, grabbed my dog on its side, causing slight a puncture wound, then grabbed my sleeve in the melee, then as I tried to lift my dog up in the air, the boxer grabbed his tail and was literally hanging off his tail.....the dopey owner at this point started calling her dog and started to run towards us, whilst I was kicking seven bells out of it.

He then loosed and ran back to her, she started waffling about he had never done this before, till I shut her up, by giving her a round of *****

I went straight home and called the police, not because of it grabbing my dog, as dog on dog is not an offence. I reported her because of it grabbing me. At no point was I looking for her dog to taken off her etc, just that this park is for kids to play in and is about 30 yards from a nursery and infant school, God forbid it had grabbed a small child instead (have a photo from the local rag from about 15yrs ago, where my son was grabbed in this park by a "bulldog" type dog(his description, aged about 8) that wasn't on a lead - so I have experience of this) The police spoke to her about this and advised her that she should keep it on a lead in future.

Haven't seen her round there since.
 
Malevolence said:
Oh look, it's yet another thread where dowie gets all passive-aggressive.
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What, by having a different opinion? If you disagree then why not join the discussion directly instead of, ironically, making your own passive aggressive one liner complaining about me supposedly being passive aggressive :confused:
 
Is there no dog laws in the uk? Here in Ireland all dogs must be microchipped, dangerous dogs like German Shepherds must be muzzled and on a leash no longer than 2 meters. Also all dogs must be licensed.

Not that you can prevent anything if the dog comes charging out of the property.

My dog Leo got attacked by a German Shepard that came charging out of his back yard because the gate was open. Luckily I managed to give it a good kick in its guts before he managed to maul my dog. And my dog isn't a small dog, but he's no aggression in him what so ever. He just wants to play.

We also got attacked by two Jack Russell's running out at us from their house as we passed. I also had to kick them away.
 
The thing about this dog is they used to keep it enclosed in the back garden with a metal railing fence that backed on to a field. Day after day it would spend it's time barking at other dogs and people walking through the fields. Also on other occasions, other people would let their dogs off the lead only to allow them to aggravate this German Shepherd from the other side of the fence. I believe it's gone a bit nasty because of this. The owners being thick, think it's perfectly fine to let it run around in this field without it being on a lead. I can see this happening again sometime: just hope it won't be with me? I'm stuck with trying to find a safe time and a safe place in which to walk my border collie now?
 
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The thing about this dog is they used to keep it enclosed in the back garden with a metal railing fence that backed on to a field. Day after day it would spend it's time barking at other dogs and people walking through the fields. Also on other occasions, other people would let their dogs off the lead only to allow them to aggravate this German Shepherd from the other side of the fence. I believe it's gone a bit nasty because of this. The owners being thick, think it's perfectly fine to let it run around in this field without it being on a lead. I can see this happening again sometime: just hope it won't be with me?
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There's not much you can do, some people should not be allowed to own dogs.

I'm lucky, my Malamute once stopped a Staffy charge with his stare (it helps he was 3 times the other dog's size :p). He is also never aggressive unless threatened and even then, he calms down instantly when I put my hand on his upper jaw.

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Not always.

A friend had a very passive GSD that bit their grandmother. Not the owners fault. The poor dog had a brain tumour.....
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A good owner knows their dog and takes precautions so still the owner's fault in that case. Dogs are very,very predictable animals, they show obvious signs before acting and the stories about one off random attacks are usually myths.
 
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Zethor said:
There's not much you can do, some people should not be allowed to own dogs.

I'm lucky, my Malamute once stopped a Staffy charge with his stare (it helps he was 3 times the other dog's size :p). He is also never aggressive unless threatened and even then, he calms down instantly when I put my hand on his upper jaw.
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Just to clarify. The size of your dog made NO difference to the staffy. Animals don't know that their size means anything.

Its not the size of the dog in the fight. Its the size of the fight in the dog....


I've seen many large dogs getting seen off my much much smaller dogs.
 
Zethor said:
A good owner know their dog and takes precautions so still the owners fault in that case. Dogs are very,very predictable animals, they show obvious signs before acting and the stories about one off random attacks are usually myths.
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Bull.. The dog showed NO symptoms at all. Until it snapped.

Yes you are correct they are predictable...Unless they have an illness especially one that can/does/will effect their behavior.
 
Body language yes. I know that, Thats not in dispute

But not size. Should I quote my post again.

So I don't have to read all your link....Does it mention Size..At all??
 
All down to the owners.

My grandad had a German Shepherd who was the most loving thing ever, just wanted to play all the time but he was trained, if he ran towards another dog or person all you had to shout was "st" (imagine staying stop without the op) and that was the noise/word he was trained to stop dead in his tracks and not move, and he would without fail, even if the other people walked past he would just stay there completely ignoring them.

Call heel or click your fingers at your waist and he would walk with his nose touching your hand.

He would growl, bark or be quiet at command.

It all came down to the training, likewise aggressive things like growling were never associated with playing, if he growled while playing with a tug rope or similar, then he was told to drop it and the toy was taken away while he was given a time out with "down".
 
mattyg said:
Body language yes. I know that, Thats not in dispute

But not size. Should I quote my post again.

So I don't have to read all your link....Does it mention Size..At all??
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Ok. :D

Body size in animals is used to assess potential mates, or the relative strength and dominance of competitors. Animals therefore use visual cues to make decisions on whether to engage in potential social or sexual interaction with other individuals.

The findings of the Taylor experiment show that domestic dogs have the cognitive ability to match visual cues to size (by looking at the other dog) with acoustic cues to size (by listening to the growling sound made), enabling them to build a more accurate picture of the other animal's status.

http://phys.org/news/2011-03-dogs-size.html
 
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This thread reminds me of a crazy dog from down my road. Not a dog expert so don't know what type it is sorry.

It goes for walks by itself at night, and a couple of times when I was coming home late from work it would start barking at me from across the road as I was walking. I would speed up a little bit and it would then start running after me :eek: I then stop and turn around and make a loud noise and it stops and just stands on its back 2 legs barking away. As soon as I start moving again it would start following me. It did this a couple of times and I luckily managed to get to my door before it got close enough to find out what it was planning to do.

Anyway one night I was going home late same away and I totally forgot about the dog...and I had earphones in, listening to music. As I'm walking I felt something touch my leg and I look down and I see the same dog biting my leg :eek: :eek: :eek:

This game me a real scare as it was totally unexpected as I didn't hear it coming, just saw it there. Off course I swung my other leg and would have happily smacked it round the head but it moved away... I ran as quickly as I could a few more doors down till I was home...it did the usual thing of following me barking away.

I don't think it was a 'proper' bite as in it didn't sink its teeth in or anything like that, maybe it was just to get my attention, I am sure if it wanted to really hurt me it could have. Either way the dog is crazy!
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I'd have put the damn thing down with a claw hammer. No hesitation. A wild dog roaming the street.... beyond wrong.
 
Zethor said:
Ok. :D

Body size in animals is used to assess potential mates, or the relative strength and dominance of competitors. Animals therefore use visual cues to make decisions on whether to engage in potential social or sexual interaction with other individuals.

The findings of the Taylor experiment show that domestic dogs have the cognitive ability to match visual cues to size (by looking at the other dog) with acoustic cues to size (by listening to the growling sound made), enabling them to build a more accurate picture of the other animal's status.

http://phys.org/news/2011-03-dogs-size.html
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Other animals status.

If you read my post again. It says their size. Show me a study in which it proves a dog knows how big it is, not that it can perceive the size of another dog by its growl.


I've lost count of the amount of small dogs i've seen needing patching up as a result of taking on a much larger dog.
 
mattyg said:
Other animals status.

If you read my post again. It says their size. Show me a study in which it proves a dog knows how big it is, not that it can perceive the size of another dog by its growl.


I've lost count of the amount of small dogs i've seen needing patching up as a result of taking on a much larger dog.
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You can't be so daft, you must be trolling, at least I hope you are. It says right there that dogs use visual ques (look up the definition of the word 'visual') to determine the other dog's size and that it also uses acoustic cues. Stop going on, you're embarrassing yourself.
 
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