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Radeon AIB Partners "Frustrated" at AMD

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http://www.techpowerup.com/222398/radeon-aib-partners-frustrated-at-amd



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http://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
 
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And another click bait article......

We all know when Polaris is due. We have known for months...We also have known that Polaris is not a high end product for months too...that job goes to Vega.

This "Frustrated" of graphics card land type post is meaningless. Why would these companies be frustrated? They all have 1070's and 1080s coming out soon, so I am not sure why they would be so perplexed. Rushed off their feet perhaps due to Nvidia's pre-emptive early launch....maybe that's the real reason for their frustration...Work Stress. :p
 
maonayze said:
This "Frustrated" of graphics card land type post is meaningless. Why would these companies be frustrated? They all have 1070's and 1080s coming out soon, so I am not sure why they would be so perplexed. Rushed off their feet perhaps due to Nvidia's pre-emptive early launch....maybe that's the real reason for their frustration...Work Stress. :p
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The AMD-only partners don't though ;)

They've probably seen the massive sales figures of the 970/980/Ti lines and become a little jealous/desperate....
 
Simple i see this polaris as amd fail... Vega should have came out same time..

AMD got screwed over due to HBM first and second gen..... They ware supposed to be ready and what ??? FAIL
 
Polaris could be a PR disaster for AMD, so many people out there seem to think its AMD's response to Pascal 1070/1080, all you see are people saying 'I'll wait to see what Polaris is like before deciding'

When these people see the numbers they're all going to start shouting what a load of rubbish and the like.
 
Hm, sounding more and more like Polaris genuinely isn't going to be very fast (and by fast I mean Fury X/ 980Ti + levels of performance)
 
Cooper said:
Polaris could be a PR disaster for AMD, so many people out there seem to think its AMD's response to Pascal 1070/1080, all you see are people saying 'I'll wait to see what Polaris is like before deciding'

When these people see the numbers they're all going to start shouting what a load of rubbish and the like.
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I think this is part of the problem, Polaris and the 1080 will be addressing different parts of the market. Both will be good but they can not compete against each other.

Unfortunately for AMD there is the 1060 and 1070 which will be more competitive against the up coming Polaris cards.
 
Jono8 said:
Hm, sounding more and more like Polaris genuinely isn't going to be very fast (and by fast I mean Fury X/ 980Ti + levels of performance)
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But this is down to your misconception not AMD failing to compete.

Polaris was never meant to be AMD's answer to the 1070/1080.
 
Cooper said:
But this is down to your misconception not AMD failing to compete.

Polaris was never meant to be AMD's answer to the 1070/1080.
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I thought perhaps the rumours might be wrong and Polaris would be like GP104 (leaving vega to compete with full fat pascal) but evidently not.

I would really like a new GPU in June so it looks like it is going to have to be Nvidia.
 
Jono8 said:
I thought perhaps the rumours might be wrong and Polaris would be like GP104 (leaving vega to compete with full fat pascal) but evidently not.

I would really like a new GPU in June so it looks like it is going to have to be Nvidia.
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NVidia may win the battle of the mid range cards with the 1070 and 1080 but come next year I think AMD will win with the full fat Vega v Big Pascal.
 
Cooper said:
But this is down to your misconception not AMD failing to compete.

Polaris was never meant to be AMD's answer to the 1070/1080.
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but public perception, albeit misinformed, believe it should be.

Kaapstad said:
NVidia may win the battle of the mid range cards with the 1070 and 1080 but come next year I think AMD will win with the full fat Vega v Big Pascal.
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which market segment is more important to the companies; which one will generate the most revenue per segment overall (low/mid/high/enthusiast/workstation)?
 
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The actual article:

AMD is expected to introduce Radeon R9 400 series for the press on May 26 but the partner manufacturers are frustrated about the timing and lack of product.


Nvidia has tossed the glove in this year's major GPU battle and although there are still questions about the Geforce GTX 1000 Series are the two performance cards 1080 GTX and 1070 GTX mightily impressive on paper.

Read more: Chronicle: Nvidia play the game without either opponents or referees

AMD will this summer launch its own Polaris architecture that with one more efficient manufacturing technology - 14nm to 16nm Nvidia - rumored to offer impressive performance per crown.

AMD impresses in performance per crown

According to sources to Nordic Hardware AMD namely presented figures and internal data to certain partners and distributors showing the extremely competent GPUs. According to the data to be impressed AMD more than Nvidia when it comes to performance per crown in the mid and lower performance segment.AMD Polaris Architecture (7)

Meanwhile, other sources of AMD's partner manufacturers that right now are frustrated. AMD is said to be moderate with concrete information even to their closest partners and one as yet been told is that it will be delivered a mid-range card that performs like a Radeon R9 390 and R9 390X. With the right price tag, which AMD is said to hit, this can provide a powerful advances in performance per penny - something AMD official pointed out, one of the main goals of Polaris architecture.

- We look at the entire spectrum of players, how many millions they are, what they buy and performance per dollar aspect. How do we make it optimal for them from the performance per dollar aspect, said AMD's graphics director Raja Koduri for PCPer in March .

In the wake of the launch of Nvidia's GTX and 1080 GTX 1070 begins frustration but growth of the red camp's partners. AMD is said not conveyed any information at all about a successor to the Radeon R9 Fury series or indeed disclose to plan how to counter-performance Nvidia's new card.

Not the first time AMD puts gag

Even more frustrating is said to be the fact that AMD does not seem ready to show off some new graphics card public during Computex in early June. While the company is a closed press event in Macau on 26th May, the information conveyed there to be under embargo and not get published until later in June. AMD's partners hoped to showcase new graphics card models at the Computex trade show stands so far with the gag.

AMD Polaris - All about AMD's new Radeon family
Nvidia Pascal - All about Nvidia's new Geforce family
Which sounds like the act that occurred at Computex 2015 when AMD withheld at the official launch of the Radeon R9 300 series but where the partner manufacturers surreptitiously showed short circuits and behind closed doors .

At this writing, even AMD's partner manufacturers starved of information and the only performance card mentioned thus far is based on Vega architecture with a launch date early next year. Which would mean that Nvidia has free reign in the top performance segment, the rest of the year. Provided that the Radeon R9 400 Series and Polaris 10 circuit focuses on the performance of R9 390 class. Something that hardly sounds unlikely, and even AMD's partners have been hard to imagine.AMD Product Plan Polaris, Vega and Navi

Hope that AMD scams

There are rather hopeful that AMD is simply bluffing and blinds their plans to the last, and that it nonetheless has major product launches planned. Most suggest that Nvidia will at least get a couple of dangerous weeks in summer without direct competition. Something that would explain the green team 'pricing where the launch models "Founders Edition" cost considerably more than the next partner manufacturers' cards.

Update: 2016-05-11
TweakTown have for our reports contacted own sources at graphics card manufacturers and meet the same information. AMD has in writing no plans to allow partners to show up ready Polaris graphics cards at Computex on 2-6 th June.
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So that means there are AIB cards already ready to go,but AMD is holding back for the time-being??

I wonder if them are waiting to see how well the GTX1080 is,so they can adjust the price??



hyperseven said:
but public perception, albeit misinformed, believe it should be.
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I don't anyone of my enthusiast mates who thinks that though?? AMD has been quite clear in saying they are targetting more mainstream users.

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In fact I don't know anybody who is looking at a new card who things Polaris is competing with the GTX1070 and GTX1080.

Virtually every tidbit of info on websites,and most people on forums are saying the same thing. People are thinking its a cheaper card with R9 390 to Fury level performance for mainstream desktop and cards targetting laptops.
 
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A) The only AMD only AIB partner is Sapphire.
B) click bait article. Everyone knows the production scales a year ahead. They do not wake up one morning saying "hey i will be producing x gpu in june"
C) Lets see how the cookies crumble this summer....
 
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