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Radeon AIB Partners "Frustrated" at AMD

BubbySoup said:
This is a crazy thing to say. You only need to look at the CPU market to see why this would be a bad idea. You don't have to read any threads here, but if AMD were to vanish then you would have to pay more for your GPU.
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I could also see Nvidia locking out overclocking on cheaper cards if they kept too much of the market sales for too long. Also having features on the higher end cards that are not on the lower. Similar to SMT being on the i7's but not the i5's.

But i can see Intel having to change up their CPU strategy since AMD is likely to keep SMT on all of their parts. Since how do you differentiate between an i5 and i7 if they both have SMT? yeah the i7's have a little more cache, but nothing greatly better over the i5's.
 
Article is a load of tosh,
Amd have been struggling with r&d for a few years aswell as needing 2 die shrinks which hurt them. The first was the cancelled 32nm for cayman the 2nd was 20nm for tonga/fury.
Gcn 1 and 1.1 were perfection for their time but the fact that in 2016 they still use them for their cut down lower end gpu's, means that they are showing their age compared to the competition, (I don't just mean fps) i'm referring to die size vs manufacturing cost vs power consumption vs features.

Polaris as we all know is to get the sales where the majority of the market is.
This is mobile and entry level/mid range. They only need 20% over a r7 370 and 20% over a 390x to make their new tiers attractive, so with their new front end and some driver work and hopefully 1300-1400 mhz headroom they should achieve it. Then they'll have the updated uvd and vce encoder decoders/ cu power gating and adaptive voltage controller too. Fury is an expensive chip to produce for the public, and they cannot afford to compete with this gpu.

Gtx 1070/1080 once again is just a mid range gpu I cannot understand the hype around it, do people not learm from the past ? The 680/770, 970/980 mid range over priced so called flagship.
 
Clickbait nonsense with outright lies in it. AMD hasn't released a new high end GPU since 2012? I must have dreamed up Hawaii and Fiji I guess. I'm sure the weaselly response from people who don't understand the difference between a GPU and an architecture will be that they don't count since they're still technically GCN-based, but then so are Polaris and Vega, so will they be labelled "rebrands" too? :rolleyes:
 
Aretak said:
Clickbait nonsense with outright lies in it. AMD hasn't released a new high end GPU since 2012? I must have dreamed up Hawaii and Fiji I guess. I'm sure the weaselly response from people who don't understand the difference between a GPU and an architecture will be that they don't count since they're still technically GCN-based, but then so are Polaris and Vega, so will they be labelled "rebrands" too? :rolleyes:
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Exactly, whilst fiji was a poor executiob and expensive it's still a high end offering just like hawaii or gm200.
 
Man all this doom and gloom surrounding AMD... can people just wait till the actual cards are out and we get sales figures before writing them off? To me it looks like both companies are targeting different segments of the market, I'd like to see how that pans out for them. While us on these forums may only care about high-end (and if you really do, then the 1080 is nothing to be excited about, Vega and 1080ti are the ones to look forward to), the bulk of GPU sales are made up from the mid-end cards.

On forums like these, of course folks will be going for the more expensive and higher performing cards. But what will the average consumers buy? Currently I know 2 folks (personally, outside of PC hardware enthusiast communities) who are interested in Polaris and not many people excited for Pascal.

Me personally, I'm expecting Vega to be knockout. That or I'll join the doom and gloom for AMD bandwagon. If it's being moved forward to this year, it doesn't necessarily mean that 'AMD are worried'. They wouldn't be able to move it forward if they couldn't produce products sufficient to compete. I'm thinking that their original plan was to release the 490 level and Fury X level cards around the same time next year. Perhaps the moving forward to October means they'll release the 490/490X sooner and seperate from their actual flagship product.
 
OP updated.:)

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http://www.techpowerup.com/222398/radeon-aib-partners-frustrated-at-amd



Also in the news.

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http://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
 
Some of the Nvidia herd wishing AMD is gone is a pathetic attitude imo. Much as I don't like Nvidia's business practices I wouldn't wish them going bankrupt since we need competition in this market. A single GPU company would not be beneficial at all for consumers.

Aside from prices there would be the problem of driver neglect for older hardware (planned obscelence) when new cards come out. We may then be forced to upgrade every year or two since we wouldn't be able to tell if the hardware is getting weak or it's actually the drivers being gimped.

As for Polaris, I hope it's close to Fury X performance for a cheap price otherwise it's not going to be pretty.
 
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Dave2150 said:
All we'll have to choose from will be NVIDIA. No arguing, debating, ridiculing, trolling etc.
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Wouldn't that be wonderful. Incremental 10% improvements every year just like Intel.

Dave2150 said:
Sooner it comes, then sooner we can all move on from enthusiast forums like this one - it will be pretty boring when everyone's running the exact same hardware IMO.
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If there is someone standing next to you with a gun pointed at your head forcing you to post here give us a sign and we'll send help.
 
Dave2150 said:
You're forgetting the 1070 will only be £50 more or so, and will have drastically improved performance over Polaris.
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So now the 1070 is £250? I think the 1070 will be £350 at least for most cards. He said £200 for the amd card which would be £150 more for the 1070 and taking people's optimistic £300 it would still be £100 less for Amds new card.
 
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Why everyone saying this is bad for AMD lol. It's a GOOD thing for AMD to come out second. They know what the competition has been marketed as and can beat it. They can come out and say "you've seen the 1070 and the 1080, these are our cards and they are better because..."

Good things come to those who wait. You can't say anything bad about AMD until you have seen their new cards. They could destroy Pascal for all we know.
 
Phixsator said:
I couldnt agree more.. Such a click bait article. Makes me wonder if it was somehow inspired by some with a grudge or wish to further sales of the competitor's products. As you said the only AMD exclussive AIB is Sapphire and they have known for a long time what AMD is up to. I mean if if Sapphire "Ed" knows something then Sapphire have known a good long time now as i dont think he is the first in line for new information. *sidenote, i have a difficult time with that fella*

EDIT: seems i forgot about powercolor.. Havent seen them in stores in like forever.
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XFX since they had a big falling out with NVidia.
 
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