A legal paradox perhaps?

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Consider the following two cases

Case #1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ol-matron-paid-12-year-old-boy-Mars-bars.html

Case #2 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...im-s-mother-feeling-like-torn-hearts-out.html

The precise details of the cases (Especially case #1, which seems a bit of a mess anyway) are not relevant to my question, simply about the issue of the Perp/victimhood of the 12 year olds involved.

Legally, in case #1, the 12 year old would be the "Victim" because a 12 year old is not deemed legally competent to consent to sexual activity.

And yet, in case #2, a 12 year old can be considered legally competent to commit rape, something that is a wilful act and requires, as such, a degree of consent, even if only with oneself.

It seems to me something of a paradox that a 12 year old can be either a victim or a perpetrator depending on whether the other party was older of younger than them.

(Especially if one was to consider the situation where a 10, 12 and 16 year old were all involved together, the 12 year old could be both victim and perp at the same time!)

Most paradoxes are hypothetical and though fun for debate have little relevance in day to day life. However legal paradoxes (And I am sure there are many) can become horribly relevant if one is unfortunate enough to get caught up in one.

So, what can be done to resolve or eliminate this and other legal paradoxes?

(And indeed, would the legal industry even want to! ;) )
 
Each case is treated individually taking into account background reports, one 12 year old may be more or less mature than another. I dont really see a problem, your argueing that the laws are absolute however as I said thorough background reports will be conducted and judgements will be some what influenced by these.
 
The paradox is that in the first case, a crime is committed on the basis that a 12 year old is not capable of legally consenting, purely due to their age. Whereas in the second case a 12 year is very much seen as capable of consenting.

It's blindingly obvious that the 12 year old in the second case was consenting in the traditional use of the word, but the problem is so probably was the one in the first case.

The view the law takes is that a 12 year old can NEVER consent, because they don't understand what it means to consent. And therefore, according to OP, and I think he has a point, if you follow that logic then it should apply in the second case
 
lol 12 years old don't know what it means to consent.

bet they don't know which way is up and which is down either.

always thought that was the stupidest crap ever like a 12 year old doesn't know right from wrong
 
Another legal paradox is how women are deemed by the Law to be completely incapable of taking responsibility for their actions and decisions when intoxicated in a case of being raped but the guy who raped her whilst also intoxicated is 100% responsible for his actions and decisions.

And if women are so incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions whilst intoxicated why are they ever prosecuted for drink driving? It's not her fault right? She was incapable of knowing what she was doing...
 
That's a bit black and white.

Women who have been intoxicated, consented and then cried rape have had their accusations thrown out.

But if you are a man and you are having sex with somebody who is passed out, that is rape.
 
Another legal paradox is how women are deemed by the Law to be completely incapable of taking responsibility for their actions and decisions when intoxicated in a case of being raped but the guy who raped her whilst also intoxicated is 100% responsible for his actions and decisions.

And if women are so incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions whilst intoxicated why are they ever prosecuted for drink driving? It's not her fault right? She was incapable of knowing what she was doing...

How long have you been out?
 
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