How is that thinking the worst of her? You're implicitly assuming that selling her story is a negative thing to do?
Finance firm PwC accused of sexism over high heels row.
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How is that thinking the worst of her? You're implicitly assuming that selling her story is a negative thing to do?
Dress code stipulates that management are to wear smart business dress. That includes a tie. I sometimes work around rotating and moving machinery when observing, supervising or inspecting. At no point have i said I operate machinery. Someone here made an incorrect assumption.
Thus strictly I'm meant to wear a tie according to our policies however to do so would be stupid.
I'm almost certain your company policy will actually state something along the lines of any loose items of clothing to be tucked in or removed when around machinery. So I'm not sure what you're point is?
Causing problems for attention is pretty much a negative thing to do and your post sounded pretty negative on her to me.
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Well it suggest that whatever the result, the motivation was selfish rather than selfless.
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Then don't take the job? As long as employers are clear about what the conditions are, then people can choose to accept the job or not.
Well she was motivated partly by the fact it happened to herself sure - I'm not seeing that as a negative, I'm fairly neutral on the matter.
The other poster, for whatever reason, decided that rather than contribute to the thread he'd make a snide comment instead.
If you read up on the story, it is very likely she was sent home by people at the office. PWC probably don't have a formal policy but the people there would have agreed with the outsourced company as to what to expect.
They are now covering themselves pretty well.
They are now covering themselves pretty well.
It does in fact say tuck them in. However I've seen them fall out. Basically our two policies are not in tune with one another. Something I imagine a lot of dress codes and hse policies face. Which is my point.
HSE should come first it's as simple as that, in your case I doubt you'd be sacked if you removed your tie when around machinery and replaced it when you left the factory floor.
In the same way I have to wear smart business shoes in the office but if I walk across the yard to the factory I either have to have steel toecaps on or wear some rather fetching overshoe caps.
Unlike a policy of forcing someone to wear potentially damaging footwear or get the sack.
yup but it isn't clear whether that is pwc people or if the outsourcing firm provides the whole reception/host team as in all the receptionists and the team leader/manager so still not clear if it was a pwc manager or someone more senior than her from the agency who told her to get heels or go home
It's up to the company. They have got clear dress code rules. If you don't like the rules, don't work for them, plain and simple. It really is as easy and as straight forward as this. If enough people have a problem with it, nobody will work for them and they'll have to either A) change their dress code policy or B) Lose/ not be able to recruit staff and thus their business suffers.
Nobody feels sorry for the poor strippers that walk around in heels all night....
Nobody feels sorry for the poor strippers that walk around in heels all night....
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Thinking about it, if she was really smart, she would have broken her ankle, blamed it on the heels she was forced to wear and made herself a few quid!
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Yeah, breaking your ankle on purpose to claim compensation is really smart!
It's not that plain and simple. There are all sorts of regulations that supercede company policy, otherwise we'd still be in a world where hotels could have a sign outside saying "no blacks, Irish or dogs" like some used to.It's up to the company. They have got clear dress code rules. If you don't like the rules, don't work for them, plain and simple. It really is as easy and as straight forward as this. If enough people have a problem with it, nobody will work for them and they'll have to either A) change their dress code policy or B) Lose/ not be able to recruit staff and thus their business suffers.
Nobody feels sorry for the poor strippers that walk around in heels all night....
It is illegal, these days, to discriminate on all sorts of grounds, and quite right too. This strikes me as a loophole, and one that I'd bet will result in rapid back-pedalling by the idiots behind it, if they haven't already.
As for strippers, walking around in heels all night isn't the first reason I feel sorry for them. The biggest reason is catering to the .... imagination .... of the sorry individuals leering at them. But, I'd assume they're there out of choice, are well paid for it and if your business is selling sexual fantasy, then dressing sexy is intrinsic go it. Sexing up appearance is not, or at least should not, be part of a job as a receptionist.
I've had enough dealings with PWC over the years to suspect someone on their management committee will have blown a fuse over this PR, and "a word" will be had with their outsourced supplier. I certainly would have, in their shoes (pun unintended) and it would have involved pointing out that contract renewal was utterly dependent on them performing a very rapid 180-degree turn in policy.
How would they have even known if PwC didn't grass her up.
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