Finance firm PwC accused of sexism over high heels row.

you didn't read my post properly - how do you know there isn't a team of them all supplied by this outsourcing company complete with supervisor?
 
It's not that plain and simple. There are all sorts of regulations that supercede company policy, otherwise we'd still be in a world where hotels could have a sign outside saying "no blacks, Irish or dogs" like some used to.

It is illegal, these days, to discriminate on all sorts of grounds, and quite right too. This strikes me as a loophole, and one that I'd bet will result in rapid back-pedalling by the idiots behind it, if they haven't already.

As for strippers, walking around in heels all night isn't the first reason I feel sorry for them. The biggest reason is catering to the .... imagination .... of the sorry individuals leering at them. But, I'd assume they're there out of choice, are well paid for it and if your business is selling sexual fantasy, then dressing sexy is intrinsic go it. Sexing up appearance is not, or at least should not, be part of a job as a receptionist.

I've had enough dealings with PWC over the years to suspect someone on their management committee will have blown a fuse over this PR, and "a word" will be had with their outsourced supplier. I certainly would have, in their shoes (pun unintended) and it would have involved pointing out that contract renewal was utterly dependent on them performing a very rapid 180-degree turn in policy.

I disagree. Yes there is regulation but no it does not cover this. I don't see it as a loophole either, it's just a legitimate company policy. Also, you tend to agree that it's ok for strippers to wear heels because it comes with the territory but as far as I'm concerned it's a double standard. If you want to make this sort of thing regulation, it has to be the same for all business. Also not that it's anything to do with this thread, but your judgemental view of strippers and their clientele is rather short sighted.
 
She was at the PwC office.

Temp companies don't keep managers at every client location.

I don't believe this is a temp worker at an office. I believe this is PwC outsourcing the operation. I would in fact be surprised if the outsourcing company didn't have management at the client location as this will be one of PwC's flagship offices (I think it is anyway).
 
Trousers, shirts and ties don't really have the possibility of causing pain, discomfort and damage through being worn though do they?

Usually as much as I am to post saying oh look woman kicking off again about some non issue. I agree.

I'd hate to walk around in those torture devices all day.
 
She's a receptionist, she'd be sitting on her arse, texting her friends and bitching about everyone who walks past.

She could easily have slipped them off under the desk, the mardarse.

LOL, my thoughts exactly, plus she could have decided if the dress code was suitable for her plates of meat and spine, before taking the job. Sounds like a professional claimant in the making to me.
 
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My blood boiled when I read this, anyone here who's tried on their partners heels for a laugh will know just how bloody uncomfortable they really are! Trousers are one thing but these bugger up your feet for life.

Unfortunately my lady has dinky little feet so never had the pleasure :p
 
I disagree. Yes there is regulation but no it does not cover this. I don't see it as a loophole either, it's just a legitimate company policy. Also, you tend to agree that it's ok for strippers to wear heels because it comes with the territory but as far as I'm concerned it's a double standard. If you want to make this sort of thing regulation, it has to be the same for all business. Also not that it's anything to do with this thread, but your judgemental view of strippers and their clientele is rather short sighted.

There didn't use to be regulation preventing discrimination on gender, racial etc grounds either.

Nor is it double standards. If you check out existing discrimination legislation, you will find there are broad principles which apply, but exceptions for when something is inherent in the nature of the job. For example, requiring a job applicant to be female when the job involves gender privacy, like a swimming pool changing room attendant. Or on religious grounds, like requiring a catholic priest to actually be catholic. Exceptions to discrimination law apply when it is inherent in the nature of the job.

It might be pushing it to expect legislation to be amended directly over high heels, but if it goes to court, it's certainly possible precedent court be set by judges interpreting existing law.
 
She was at the PwC office.

Temp companies don't keep managers at every client location.

It seems quite clear that it's nothing to do with PwC:

"PwC outsources its front of house and reception services to a third party supplier. We first became aware of this matter on 10 May, some five months after the issue arose," the spokesman said.
"PwC does not have specific dress guidelines for male or female employees."

The entire reception operation will be run by a third party.
 
you didn't read my post properly - how do you know there isn't a team of them all supplied by this outsourcing company complete with supervisor?

Ah okay. I suppose that's a strong possibility.

The original BBC article did call her a temp, so I didn't think the entire front of house was outsourced.

Very surprised it is organised that way. If PwC have no oversight of the entire front of house operation, how are they ensuring a suitable level of service and security. The latter point is particularly important given the nature of the organisation.
 
As much as I love the sight of a woman in a nice pair of high heels (my wife probably has 20+ pairs of 4"+ heels inc Louboutins, Jimmy Choos etc), I find the idea of a company having a policy mandating the wearing of them abhorrent.
 
Ah okay. I suppose that's a strong possibility.

The original BBC article did call her a temp, so I didn't think the entire front of house was outsourced.

Very surprised it is organised that way. If PwC have no oversight of the entire front of house operation, how are they ensuring a suitable level of service and security. The latter point is particularly important given the nature of the organisation.

ref: security I'd wager that is outsourced too, especially if in a shared building

this could easily just be reception for some meeting rooms on a particular floor... these temp workers simply being required to escort clients and fetch drinks

for all you know there could be a different reception downstairs run by pwc or building management (if a shared building) and different receptions on each floor with just a suite of meeting rooms run by the outsourcing company

like I'd assume that say a floor with the executive offices would have its own receptioists/PAs, even R&D had its own reception at the last large firm I worked at, wasn't a client facing floor but we still had a girl manning the desk by the lifts to liaise with building management and in house office/facilities management, deal with the post etc..
 
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As much as I love the sight of a woman in a nice pair of high heels (my wife probably has 20+ pairs of 4"+ heels inc Louboutins, Jimmy Choos etc), I find the idea of a company having a policy mandating the wearing of them abhorrent.

Why?
 
Very surprised it is organised that way. If PwC have no oversight of the entire front of house operation, how are they ensuring a suitable level of service and security. The latter point is particularly important given the nature of the organisation.

They obviously have oversight but oversight doesn't include permanently stationing a member of PWC staff in the lobby to watch every interaction between the front of house staff, does it?

It doesn't sound she like she made a complaint to PWC at all, let alone at the time.
 

Because for many women they are painful and extremely uncomfortable to wear and have the potential to cause short and long term damage to health. Nothing you do at work, including wearing certain clothing, should put your health or at risk or cause you pain.

There is no reasonable justification that can be given for insisting female employees wear heels instead of flat shoes whilst at work.
 
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If PwC have no oversight of the entire front of house operation, how are they ensuring a suitable level of service and security. The latter point is particularly important given the nature of the organisation.

They will have a service contract, and there will be spot checks.

I'm willing to bet most support roles will be outsourced by PwC including reception, security, catering, IT support, cleaning, maintenance etc.
 
Because for many women they are painful and extremely uncomfortable to wear and have the potential to cause short and long term damage to health. Nothing you do at work, including wearing certain clothing, should put your health or at risk or cause you pain.

There is no reasonable justification that can be given for insisting female employees wear heels instead of flat shoes whilst at work.

What if the position requires certain aesthetics?
 
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