High Court Ruling on School Holidays

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The situation needed someone to take up the reigns to get it to court. Don't look at the specifics of the case in question, but rather the principle of the rule for all those it affects.
Yes, it's a technicality that needs to be clarified. It's unfortunate that this is the case being used. Plenty of more worthy examples in this thread.
It's clear the parent has money and this is more about the principles than the £60.
It takes strong principles to accept £25k in crowd funding for the legal fees.
 
It takes strong principles to accept £25k in crowd funding for the legal fees.

I guess £60 < Principles < £25,000

Could be that the parent neglected to pay because it slipped their mind and is riding this out since it has gotten this far so he doesnt seem silly :D

I wouldn't class 90% as good attendance. That's one day off every two weeks!

My old work place had a 3% rule. If your unplanned days off including sick days are above 3% of your total worked that work year, you would have a review as to why and disciplinary action may be taken depending on the review. This worked well since the lazy people taking two weeks off because of the sniffles weren't group together with the bloke who had knee surgery. Took care of the bloke that on and off missed 6 weeks in a year because he had 'cracked' his thumb and it would hurt some days more than others. He had a note from the doctor about not being allowed to lift but he would not accept any other work : /
 
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I think it's a bunch of ****. Education is not limited to the classroom and you can learn way more outside of it, as well as inside. It's not like she was always off just chilling at home. We took the kids out 3 days before the end of last term to go to Thailand and I bet that they got more out of that than they would have those 3 days in school.

Amen to that.
 
It's clear the parent has money and this is more about the principles than the £60.

This.

When my daughter starts school I could easily afford £120 to have her off for a week if it meant not paying an extra £1000 to the holiday company.

What I don't agree with is being told I have to pay because every single day of her education is vital when in reality schools close for all sorts of reasons which could/should be entirely avoidable
 
Have a look at how many times the word "reasonable" is used in employment law. Reasonable is never defined.

Back to the topic at at, I'm of the opinion that:-

A: Parents knew vacations would be more expensive in school holidays BEFORE they had kids. It is not a surprise!
B: If the holiday you're looking at is too expensive at the time you want, choose a different holiday. Instead of going to Spain, go camping for a week.
c: If your work holidays don't align with your children's holidays, then tough ****. Get another job or do day trips at weekends rather than week long holidays. Explore what Britain has to offer instead of a foreign holiday. Visit museums. Go for a picnic. Go for a bike ride. Have a staycation!

IMHO, there is no reasonable justification to take a child out of school for a vacation*

Disclaimer:- I have three kids - I've never taken them out of school nor will I ever do so.

D: You can rent their bookie accounts and give them £50 a month, so they can afford a nice little break away, it's what all the intelligent people would do ;):p:D:rolleyes::o
 
Everyone remembers in school, when you had a supply teacher, nothing got done.

One year of secondary school, my eldest had a supply teacher for the entire year as the actual teacher was off due to "stress" this affected the grades of the entire class.

I am unable to fine the school for wasted days due to poor staffing levels/quality.

Haven't paid a fine before but might have to. I will be taking eldest out of school last 3 days in July. Nothing gets done that week anyway and it saves me £1000.
 
This.

When my daughter starts school I could easily afford £120 to have her off for a week if it meant not paying an extra £1000 to the holiday company.

What I don't agree with is being told I have to pay because every single day of her education is vital when in reality schools close for all sorts of reasons which could/should be entirely avoidable
I think a number of people are missing the point. It's already been said above that the concern is that if this becomes a common occurance, lots of kids will be taken out of school for holidays. That would cause all sorts of problems and disruption with the school.

I was never taken out of school for holidays. We couldn't afford to go abroad so we went camping around the UK. We dealt with the problem by going on a holiday we could afford. SHOCK HORROR :eek:!

The problem is price-hike by the travel companies when schools break up. Perhaps there should be more control of how much the prices are allowed to increase???
 
D: You can rent their bookie accounts and give them £50 a month, so they can afford a nice little break away, it's what all the intelligent people would do ;):p:D:rolleyes::o

You posted in a thread about children and forgot to display your misogyny by using the phrase "day orphanage".

You're slacking Tosno :p
 
The problem is price-hike by the travel companies when schools break up. Perhaps there should be more control of how much the prices are allowed to increase???

Prices aren't increased for the holiday periods though, they are discounted outside of the holiday periods.

Prices in the school holidays are priced accordingly to to reduce demand in order that capacity is not exceeded. Outside of the school holidays, prices are discounted to increase demand in order to make effective use of available capacity.
 
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i think it would be better if schools staggered their holidays tbh so not everyone was off at the same time.
 
blimey have parents got whinier lately

first world problems include:

"I cant go on holiday outside of term time"
"They are ruining little Anthonys life by making him do a test"
"I demand that MY child goes to the best school in my catchment"

waaa waaa waaa
 
Prices aren't increased for the holiday periods though, they are discounted outside of the holiday periods.

Prices in the school holidays are priced accordingly to to reduce demand in order that capacity is not exceeded. Outside of the school holidays, prices are discounted to increase demand in order to make effective use of available capacity.

Be that as it may, it's irrelevant and no one cares, the simple fact is it's much more expensive to take a holiday in school holidays than it is in term time!!!
 
blimey have parents got whinier lately

first world problems include:

"I cant go on holiday outside of term time"
"They are ruining little Anthonys life by making him do a test"
"I demand that MY child goes to the best school in my catchment"

waaa waaa waaa

TBH the exam stuff is getting a bit stupid. Year 2 SATs? When i was in primary school it seemed like we learnt what autumn was for 4 years, as if it wouldn't come round unless we knew about it :D

Be that as it may, it's irrelevant and no one cares, the simple fact is it's much more expensive to take a holiday in school holidays than it is in term time!!!

So i guess its time to book a holiday they can afford or sort it out with the school prior to the holiday so they 'catchup' in advance.
 
My daughter starts school in September and IF we choose to go away in term time (it's not something we've spoken about yet) I certainly wouldn't be paying a fine.

A school is not a factory, it's not a production line. A child not being there isn't going to cause a loss to the school or to the child. Schools close for days for training, they close for strikes, they close if there is a little bit of snow. This isn't about the education of the children. It's about another income stream for the education system.

Now, I am all for education. Even at 4 my daughter has lots of reading time, we are always looking something up to learn about, we're always crafting, creating, exploring. Her language skills are great, reading is coming along, she knows basic addition and subtraction. She's going to school to carry on learning social skills, she'd learn more from being home schooled. I just refuse to be fined for something that the school and staff find acceptable when it suits them, and that is the child missing a day at school.
 
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