High Court Ruling on School Holidays
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Lol at the governments response to the ruling - "we'll just change the law to remove the 'attend regularly' criteria".
So nothing will change and fines will continue to be issued for pulling kids out of school for vacations.
So nothing will change and fines will continue to be issued for pulling kids out of school for vacations.
Knee-jerk reaction by government and teachers (who all need a good kicking imo)
There is more to learning than sitting in a classroom learning outdated physics from 1820 or a quadratic equation.... Must admit I have used everyday quadratic equations every day and how to "remember" stuff for a pointless exam.
Most important thing I learnt at school in the 80s (middle age now) was when the physics lecturer scrapped the lesson for the day and went through how to work out your gas and electricity bills as he had just been ripped off
There is more to learning than sitting in a classroom learning outdated physics from 1820 or a quadratic equation.... Must admit I have used everyday quadratic equations every day and how to "remember" stuff for a pointless exam.
Most important thing I learnt at school in the 80s (middle age now) was when the physics lecturer scrapped the lesson for the day and went through how to work out your gas and electricity bills as he had just been ripped off
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I think you'll find most teachers have nothing to do with the issuing of fines (it's generally the local authority) and most are sympathetic to the issues parents face - at least that's what my contact with numerous teachers suggests.
However, I do know that those teachers also find it difficult to catch children up with the the curriculum being so rigid and tightly time tabled now, and they often have no choice but to leave those children behind who miss those lessons and it does affect the pupils performance in tests etc. With teachers pay being extremely closely linked to pupils performance in academies, I expect we'll see teachers in academies becoming more supportive of the term time holiday ban.
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Most important thing I learnt at school in the 80s (middle age now) was when the physics lecturer scrapped the lesson for the day and went through how to work out your gas and electricity bills as he had just been ripped off
Not everyone ends up in low skilled jobs...
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I wonder how much taxpayer's money was financed to fund an admin team to chase a £60 fine and have it dragged through the courts for several months?! 
Sure, chase the real truants who constantly skip a day, but jeez, there's better things that the pen-pushers can do than chasing an ad-hoc week's holiday and scoffing their doughnut round.
I mean, like, what difference did it make when my Geography class went to Arthog outdoor pursuits place (in Snowdonia/Wales) for a week? Zilch.
Sure, chase the real truants who constantly skip a day, but jeez, there's better things that the pen-pushers can do than chasing an ad-hoc week's holiday and scoffing their doughnut round.I mean, like, what difference did it make when my Geography class went to Arthog outdoor pursuits place (in Snowdonia/Wales) for a week? Zilch.
Strange how they don't just change the law *snaps fingers* for : Upon separation there shall be a presumption of 50/50 parenting... And they have to spend 5m on a review into it appointing a pensions person who has dodgey dealings and never asked a single parent or user of the system who took advise from: Gingerbread (sexist) the NSPCC (sexist) and Women's Aid (all of whom have had there fingers found in the pie.
To be perfectly honest I think if there was a mass boycott it would have a harder impact rather than parents having to put up with rubbish from a corrupt and crap ****** who is corrupt and bent as a nine bob note
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To be perfectly honest I think if there was a mass boycott it would have a harder impact rather than parents having to put up with rubbish from a corrupt and crap ****** who is corrupt and bent as a nine bob note
/mid rage
Nice try.
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Just another TAX I wonder if the fine actually goes to the school. Infact the school should be paying you to keep your kid out, the only thing proven to give a better education is lower classroom sizes. So more teachers and pay them less (same goes for Doctors)
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They should accept only the privileged in our society can afford to go on holiday. Until they start bleeding blue they should get in line and bend over. My parents could never afford holiday's outside of term time because it tripled.
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School staff are also forced to take their holidays at the most expensive time and they cannot take a week off to go on holiday at any time they want. Having said that, children are often ill and be forced to take time off anyway during a term. I see no problem if the child's attendance is very good otherwise.
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Don't laugh. I said on this forum ages ago that this Govt want to introduce unqualified teaching assistants to do classes with only a sprinkling of qualified staff to oversee a department. It is heading that way.
Not in Cambridge it isn't, in fact lots of schools have had to cut back yet again on TA's which at my son's school is laughable considering the amount of great work they do bringing along struggling children with bigger needs while the teacher get's on with the rest of the day to day running of a classroom.
I'd welcome more teaching assistants in the classrooms and would happily pay another £10 in tax per month to allow it to happen. They are reducing the qualified TA's in Cambridge and they certainly are not being replaced with non qualified ones.
They will simply change the law retrospectively like they've been doing with every other high court loss in recent years.
I got fined £360 for taking my kids out 3 days before term ended as my daughter who goes to different school broke up a week earlier. We even had the headmaster's permission and the greedy ****ing south Derbyshire council still fined us.
To top if off my kids had an award for high attendance too.
To top if off my kids had an award for high attendance too.
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Ever think of challenging the ruling?
Send a notice to said authority and request repayment in full following this court ruling. You have suffered a tort and are legally entitled to claim compensation.
As an example I am looking to sue the MoJ at some point this year. Week after getting back a notice letter will be sent in asking them for compensation, if failure to indemnify me then progression to the court and ask the court to essentially find against itself. Fool proof!
Looks like the knee jerk has swung both ways, typical!
A couple of days isn't a problem but if attendance is poor then action should be taken, but in true government style there's no middle ground, zero tolerance and big fines, followed by a backlash and a complete U turn.
A couple of days isn't a problem but if attendance is poor then action should be taken, but in true government style there's no middle ground, zero tolerance and big fines, followed by a backlash and a complete U turn.
Where is the cut off?
There are 190 school days per year. Teachers work 195 days per year.
Is taking 5 days (1 week) okay for a vacation? A 2 week vacation would be 5% before any days off due to illness.
What about a child who is also ill for 5 days, through no fault of their own. Are they also entitled to another 5 or 10 days? Because now attendance has dropped below 95% or lower.
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