I've always loved how both Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali are cited as great Muslim sports heroes.
One draft dodged, the other was a rapist.
Allah is not the devil, he has as much substance and is as responsible for the good/bad as much as every other sky pixie
It is not false advertising in the eyes of the law and it is not selling a product. Whether he is the greatest or not is irrelevant to whether it is false advertising. Are you going to start a thread because you dont like frosties and don't think that they're great?
By whatever you consider false advertising, i could argue almost every ad out there is false advertising.
As for the UK being Christian LOL. The UKs official religion is CofE if anything, which well under half the population (possibly even under a quarter) follow. The UK is a secular country for all intensive purposes, which is how it should be.
If i had it my way, i would make this countries religion COTFSM, at least that promotes intelligent thinking and science over outdated views and concepts.
One draft dodged, the other was a rapist.
Probably but i thought you may have more knowledge on it and provide some non biased independent links.
The draft is absurd, and Tyson was convicted off rape, but the trail was rather poor.
Well the Islamic Relief website is the best place to go to see their current ongoing operations.
http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/category/current-appeals/
I don't really see why it would be biased. What is there to be biased about.
http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/about-us/what-we-do/
http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/about-us/annual-reports/
So when looking for facts on how an organization operates it is best just to go to their own website\publications to get the facts? Really, do you do that.
Anyone hear Tommy Robinson take apart the guy from Islamic Relief? Made me chuckle
Mr. Robinson said: “I think Islam is completely shoved in our faces everyday, and I don’t think it should be… I don’t wanna hear ‘Allah hu Akbar’ screamed again, because every time I hear the word ‘Allah’, it’s to do with terrorism, rape, murder or torture.”
Yes.
Where would you go to see what UNICEF or the NSPCC are doing right now?#
Where would you go to see what Amazon are selling? What current government legislation is? How the Department of Education spends their budget? What crimes have been reported to the police? How the BBC spends their money?
What do you think Islamic Relief are secretly spending their money on?
Yeh, what a great argument.
Maybe he should spend some time with muslims more. Then he might hear the word a bit more in an non-newsworthy context. A charity attempts to use it in a positive way, and he doesn't want to hear that.
His agenda is pretty clear. He has a view and only wants to listen to things which reinforce his view.
He refuses to accept the the guys comments that in his experience Muslims are good and nothing like the associations Tommy Robinson has built in his warped mind.
It didn't take long for someone to come along and defend 2 Muslim sporting heroes.
The ironing.

He did have a good argument. It is preached and shoved in our faces that Islam is a religion of peace. Its like me leaving my home at 2am and saying to everyone the suns out it really is and expecting everyone to nod and accept.
Yes.
Where would you go to see what UNICEF or the NSPCC are doing right now?#
Where would you go to see what Amazon are selling? What current government legislation is? How the Department of Education spends their budget? What crimes have been reported to the police? How the BBC spends their money?
What do you think Islamic Relief are secretly spending their money on?
He did have a good argument. It is preached and shoved in our faces that Islam is a religion of peace. Its like me leaving my home at 2am and saying to everyone the suns out it really is and expecting everyone to nod and accept.
A charity who has the sole purpose of helping other Muslims. How much of that do we suspect will go toward helping the Yazidi Christians whom are fleeing genocide or dhimmitude only to be forbidden by Turkey to progress on?
Tommy Robinson oddly, when given a platform states an outside fact. Truth will always prevail over tyranny. You are now glossing over the point I made which was the IR spokesman didn't stand a chance as he was being confronted with honest, sensible and undeniable facts. How long can people keep pandering to this notion that to speak out against Islam is somehow racist. Even the spokesmans remarks about the Blaspheming got thrown back: In this country you are not put to death for such a thing.
As I stated previously there are motions to have Islamic blasphemy laws imposed.

The only time I ever hear "religion of peace" is in these threads... Perhaps you should spend less time in them?
The IR spokesman didn't stand a chance because it's difficult to argue against opinionated rubbish masqueraded as fact and when the person opposite you isn't going to actually have a rational discussion. The fact you think what he is saying is somehow a fact, rather than opinion is worrying in itself. How can you really believe anything in the quote of muons is actually a fact?![]()
