High Court Ruling on School Holidays
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The reason there is undue pressure on parents to keep kids in school everyday, is the regime of standardised testing and judgement of teacher performance on this miss-measure system.
Dependant on the age of your children it is ridiculous that you can be fined for taking them out of that system for a few days.
Other countries work differently such as Finland who even by such "measurement systems" have a far superior education system and do it without the silly rounds of high volume homework/minimal play time/standardised test treadmill that starts way too young in this country.
Dependant on the age of your children it is ridiculous that you can be fined for taking them out of that system for a few days.
Other countries work differently such as Finland who even by such "measurement systems" have a far superior education system and do it without the silly rounds of high volume homework/minimal play time/standardised test treadmill that starts way too young in this country.
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He said his kids are getting B's and C's so it's not like they are working exceptionally hard and need a break...would spending the money on a tutor to get their grades up and then take them away as an incentive for getting some A's and B's not be as educational or even more so?
Far too many variables to define, to really answer the question.
Are his children happy? Do the grades meet his and the children's expectations?
Depends what value you place in obtaining high grades, and whether you think other factors in life are more defining in a persons character, their ability to reason, their sense of morality and so on. Because I would place more value in many of the virtues you cannot grade, over those that you can.
Are his children happy? Do the grades meet his and the children's expectations?
Depends what value you place in obtaining high grades, and whether you think other factors in life are more defining in a persons character, their ability to reason, their sense of morality and so on. Because I would place more value in many of the virtues you cannot grade, over those that you can.
No it doesn't stop saying stuff like that before some of the posters here realize what you are saying is correct and their whole direction and point is made void!
Education is more than hitting A* at GCSE as other posters haunting this forum will constantly tell you: "I left school with no GCSEs and am now manager of a company all through hard work".
Seeing some of the kids I do, they are or would be lucky to hit a C at GCSE but ask them about electrics (non GCSE taught subject) and they learn me a thing or two.
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Of course. I'll put it this way. My parents are not high earners or highly educated but they are fantastic people.
They recognised that the world has moved on since when they grew up and these days the job market is super competitive and the best way to get ahead or keep par is to get a good education and the best grades possible academically.
You could be the best rounded person in the world, but when you apply for a job and your grades are all BBBCCC and other applicants are all AAABBB you won't make it to the interview stage. And I interview now as part of my job as manager. So I know how this works.
In my case I did quite well in school, college, uni and managed to study abroad for a year in Canada, and tourned America. This is as a result of doing well academically. Some kids will never have that opportunity to do this on their own, but hey at least they went scuba diving once, right?
They recognised that the world has moved on since when they grew up and these days the job market is super competitive and the best way to get ahead or keep par is to get a good education and the best grades possible academically.
You could be the best rounded person in the world, but when you apply for a job and your grades are all BBBCCC and other applicants are all AAABBB you won't make it to the interview stage. And I interview now as part of my job as manager. So I know how this works.
In my case I did quite well in school, college, uni and managed to study abroad for a year in Canada, and tourned America. This is as a result of doing well academically. Some kids will never have that opportunity to do this on their own, but hey at least they went scuba diving once, right?
IF and that's a big IF parents make the holiday a learning experience then great, but how many do? Do you think those that go to theme parks or resorts in southern Spain, do so for the learning experience?
That you do, then great, more power to you but can you guarantee all do?
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That's what kills the case for "holidays in term time" in my opinion.
If kids are allowed to go on holiday during term time, then teachers should have that option as well.
I did Electronics G.C.S.E
I have some sympathy for the teachers as well as quite a few of my friends are teachers. That said, it's one thing taking a child out and affecting their education but it's another thing all together for a teacher to affect a whole classes education.
One of my teacher friends has thrown it all in as she's had enough and found another job, but she had the decency to leave at the end of the school year and luckily her next employer was understanding enough.
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The "it's cheaper" argument applies in both cases, which is really the only argument applicable to taking children on holiday during term time.
I don't see the bad thing about it being for saving money.
Take the choice of of a week in Rome say during school time vs a week in Skegness in holiday time.
I know what I'd chose!
I don't think it's bad at all to do it in term time to save money.
Not every family has high disposable income
I'd say it's way more valuable to have travelled and missed a few weeks of school than not see another culture at all but learn that animal farm was a load of ****. I know which I think holds the most importance in life
I think school is over rated anyway.
If I was a parent I'd absolutely take my kids out of school and not have a single issue doing it.
Take the choice of of a week in Rome say during school time vs a week in Skegness in holiday time.
I know what I'd chose!
I don't think it's bad at all to do it in term time to save money.
Not every family has high disposable income
I'd say it's way more valuable to have travelled and missed a few weeks of school than not see another culture at all but learn that animal farm was a load of ****. I know which I think holds the most importance in life
I think school is over rated anyway.
If I was a parent I'd absolutely take my kids out of school and not have a single issue doing it.
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You chose to be a teacher. You know what comes with it
You have to go to school.
Its not same at all
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Actually, they don't. Education is mandatory, schooling isn't.
I know this because I had to declare that I was home schooling my youngest for a short while.
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Pedant.
Exactly. It's such a cheap retort.
It's not like the people wanting to go on holiday are willing to home school their children (which would actually conveniently allow them to schedule holidays whenever they want).
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