downgraded to gtx 460 and happily surprised

Slam · 15 May 2016 at 11:56

I had a sudden opportunity to send my two MSI gtx 760s to friends overseas with visiting family and so did this as it saves me hassle and money over sending by courier. I was reluctant to do this as these cards have served me well and I don't know what I'm going to replace them with.

In their place I installed my old MSI gtx 460 and figured it'll keep my pc going for productivity stuff.

To my surprise it handles the games I'm playing most so I'm happily surprised (there's more fan noise though). What am I playing? Rocket League, Walking Dead season two and Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light.

Might stick with this longer than I anticipated...it'll make me spend time with my steam games backlog

no_name_needed · 15 May 2016 at 12:13

I just sold my Palit GeForce GTX 460 (768 MB) for £20 they did me rather proud til I upgraded to 970GTX

varkanoid · 15 May 2016 at 13:58

waits for it............................

Poneros · 15 May 2016 at 17:27

Yeah, it's a funny thing. A lot of people spend most of their time playing low req games, popular MP titles (DotA 2, CS:GO, LoL, Hearthstone, WoW etc.) or just older SP games. I know when I go back home for holidays I can't tell much difference between my main PC and the one there (which has only a GTS 250) since I mostly end up playing CS:GO and PoE. Ultimately I think people upgrade more to scratch the spending itch than out of necessity, especially today.

Dave2150 · 15 May 2016 at 18:03

Poneros said:
Yeah, it's a funny thing. A lot of people spend most of their time playing low req games, popular MP titles (DotA 2, CS:GO, LoL, Hearthstone, WoW etc.) or just older SP games. I know when I go back home for holidays I can't tell much difference between my main PC and the one there (which has only a GTS 250) since I mostly end up playing CS:GO and PoE. Ultimately I think people upgrade more to scratch the spending itch than out of necessity, especially today.

WoW actually has quite high requirements to max everything out. Many new graphical features were added over time.

Obviously I'm talking about 1440P or 4K, at 1080P a 970 can max it comfortably.

Aretak · 15 May 2016 at 18:41

Dave2150 said:
WoW actually has quite high requirements to max everything out. Many new graphical features were added over time.

Obviously I'm talking about 1440P or 4K, at 1080P a 970 can max it comfortably.

It relies much more on CPU than GPU though. My 780 only shows ~60% usage even in the most demanding areas (in most places it actually downclocks itself below stock), yet I still get drops to ~54fps in Warspear with a 6700K at 4.6GHz.

Dave2150 · 15 May 2016 at 19:10

Aretak said:
It relies much more on CPU than GPU though. My 780 only shows ~60% usage even in the most demanding areas (in most places it actually downclocks itself below stock), yet I still get drops to ~54fps in Warspear with a 6700K at 4.6GHz.

At 1080P its very easy to drive yes.

At 1440P and 4K even the best GPU's have to work hard.

It's still CPU bound, but not as much as it used to be. The additions of MSAA, SSAA, NVIDIA HBAO+ require high GPU power at 1440P and above.

The next expansion will put further load on the GPU's, as they are pretty much doubling the rendering distance (in legion).

bledd · 15 May 2016 at 19:51

I'm mainly playing Rocket League and Company of Heroes (came out in 2008!)

My gtx660ti bit the dust the other day so I had to use a spare 560ti, they 'feel' the same

pandem0nium · 15 May 2016 at 19:54

Dave2150 said:
WoW actually has quite high requirements to max everything out. Many new graphical features were added over time.

Obviously I'm talking about 1440P or 4K, at 1080P a 970 can max it comfortably.

My 390x handles WoW ultra at 4k easily. SSAAx4 knocks it down to 30s to 40 but 8x msaa it can do all day. its passive most of the time with frtc set to 60 and a custom fan profile.

NirK · 15 May 2016 at 19:58

I can run rocket league at 3440x1440 80hz Vsync on a 5870... it looks horrible but still quite good how it runs at 80fps 3440x1440. At least I have something to play until the 1080 comes out.

Pulseammo · 15 May 2016 at 21:49

I loved my GTX460, one of the best bang for buck cards I've bought and it was still playing modern games reasonably well when I retired it last year.

My main motivation for getting rid of it was to play GTA5, which I'm sure it'd have handled to some degree (uhm, ok super low settings

) but I had bought the 768mb version which was a mistake in hindsight.

The VRAM caused occasional stuttering on BF3 high textures on operation firestorm and BF4 stuttered on medium or high textures I believe, however it wasn't for lack of render power, it was still pulling decent frames.

Overall a really good buy, I think it cost me £120 new and it included a game which I flogged. Amazing the performance you could get for such little outlay really.

Edit: I should say I only run a 1680x1050 monitor though which may skew things a bit!

Dave2150 · 15 May 2016 at 22:01

pandem0nium said:
My 390x handles WoW ultra at 4k easily. SSAAx4 knocks it down to 30s to 40 but 8x msaa it can do all day. its passive most of the time with frtc set to 60 and a custom fan profile.

My 390X screams like a pig when playing WoW at 1440P, 144hz, frtc set to 144FPS. Lovely and responsive though, but way too much heat/noise. Can't wait to replace it with a 1080.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 15 May 2016 at 22:04

Pulseammo said:
Edit: I should say I only run a 1680x1050 monitor though which may skew things a bit!

Your not,the only one. Use a calibrated IPS monitor with the same resolution.

Dave2150 said:
My 390X screams like a pig when playing WoW at 1440P, 144hz, frtc set to 144FPS. Lovely and responsive though, but way too much heat/noise. Can't wait to replace it with a 1080.

My mate has a Powercolor R9 390 and its reasonably quiet when playing ARK which is one of the most graphically intensive games out there. The fans on his H100 make more noise.

Dave2150 · 15 May 2016 at 22:19

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
My mate has a Powercolor R9 390 and its reasonably quiet when playing ARK which is one of the most graphically intensive games out there. The fans on his H100 make more noise.

If we consider Ark, I'd have to play at 1080P 60FPS to get my 390X to sound 'quiet'.

At 1440P, FRTC set to 144FPS (144Hz freesync monitor) my 390X is extremely loud and produces a ton of heat, especially in modern games like Ark.

pandem0nium · 15 May 2016 at 23:01

Dave2150 said:
If we consider Ark, I'd have to play at 1080P 60FPS to get my 390X to sound 'quiet'.

At 1440P, FRTC set to 144FPS (144Hz freesync monitor) my 390X is extremely loud and produces a ton of heat, especially in modern games like Ark.

Might as well see what polaris brings if you've already got the freesync monitor?

fish99 · 15 May 2016 at 23:20

Due to testing I temporarily put an old 560 TI (1GB) in my PC six months ago instead of my 970, and while I had to turn a bunch of settings down to get Witcher 3 to run the same FPS, the game looked very nearly as good.

Some games scale a lot better than others.

Doogles · 15 May 2016 at 23:25

Most of the problem with older cards is the VRAM, my old HD 7850's were awesome but the lack of VRAM (2GB) just wasn't enough especially after I crossfired them.

Aretak · 16 May 2016 at 00:12

fish99 said:
Due to testing I temporarily put an old 560 TI (1GB) in my PC six months ago instead of my 970, and while I had to turn a bunch of settings down to get Witcher 3 to run the same FPS, the game looked very nearly as good.

Some games scale a lot better than others.

I was using a GTX 570 for a while last year and found it to offer very acceptable performance in most games. In terms of raw GPU power it was around the same as a 750 Ti once overclocked, albeit using about five times the power and crippled by only having 1.25GB VRAM.

MissChief · 16 May 2016 at 01:47

I used to have a 460 and agree, it was a very capable card for the cash at the time. The 1GB really held it back in newer games and I nearly doubled my frames when I went 670 but when I used to run a 1680x1050 monitor it did great. A friend still uses it and she mostly plays FF (Not sure which version, the online one?) with nearly everything on and says it's still going along nicely. I'm sure I was playing BFBC2 with it.

nashathedog · 16 May 2016 at 10:36

Slam said:
I had a sudden opportunity to send my two MSI gtx 760s to friends overseas with visiting family and so did this as it saves me hassle and money over sending by courier. I was reluctant to do this as these cards have served me well and I don't know what I'm going to replace them with.

In their place I installed my old MSI gtx 460 and figured it'll keep my pc going for productivity stuff.

To my surprise it handles the games I'm playing most so I'm happily surprised (there's more fan noise though). What am I playing? Rocket League, Walking Dead season two and Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light.

Might stick with this longer than I anticipated...it'll make me spend time with my steam games backlog

It won't stuggle with these types of games so it's a good time to hold out what with the new releases on a die shrink being due. I'm just about to start The Walking Dead Michonne series (Telltale) myself, I enjoy point and clicks with a good story. TWD season 2 was pretty good too so have fun.