GTX 1080 – What’s not being discussed

Boomstick777 · 19 May 2016 at 12:51

The GTX 1080 was revealed to the world on May 6th, 2016 and there has been a ton of hype surrounding the GTX 1080\1070. Obviously the hype train went off the rails once Nvidia started revealing information about the GTX 1080 and enthusiast speculation started to run wild.

http://www.overclock-and-game.com/news/pc-gaming/46-gtx-1080-what-s-not-being-discussed

Nvidia has already gotten away with the GTX 1070 + GTX 1080 paper launch and Nvidia fans didn’t bat an eye or question anything. The GTX 1080 presentation slides have already been edited. For instance Nvidia claimed that the GTX 1080 was faster than the GTX 980 in 2-way SLI and “way faster” than the Titan X. Turns out that the GTX 1080 is only faster than the GTX 980 2-way SLI in VR performance and not actual games. Nvidia played people with their usual marketing and thankfully people are smart enough to look through this type of marketing and actual “READ” the damn slides.

Nvidia claimed 9TFLOPS, but that number has dropped to 8.2TFLOPS based on official leaks and now official reviews.

In a specific DX12 benchmark the GTX 1080 was running on a 6 core CPU, a newer version of the game and using the “High” graphical settings and was only 2.18% faster than an AMD Fury [not Fury X] running on a 4 core CPU, an older version of the game and using “Ultra” settings. So the Fury was at a disadvantage in every category and the GTX 1080 can only manage to beat it by 2.18% once you take the CPU difference into account.

Some Nvidia fans are confident drivers will fix the issue, however we have been waiting around 9 months for those async drivers Nvidia stated they were working on.

glenimp617 · 19 May 2016 at 12:52

who cares, so long as it's got an nvidia logo on it and a higher model number I'm game

Wrinkly · 19 May 2016 at 12:55

glen8 said:
who cares, so long as it's got an nvidia logo on it and a higher model number I'm game

I wish I could have 'customers' like this !

D1craig · 19 May 2016 at 12:57

glen8 said:
who cares, so long as it's got an nvidia logo on it and a higher model number I'm game

Exactly. As harsh as it is this is the way these forums are.

Strife212 · 19 May 2016 at 13:00

Fury...GTX 1080 can only manage to beat it by 2.18%

yeah ok then

Squink · 19 May 2016 at 13:01

glen8 said:
who cares, so long as it's got an nvidia logo on it and a higher model number I'm game

I enjoyed this post

snips86x · 19 May 2016 at 13:02

It was inevitable, look at the fiasco which unfolded after the GTX970 came out!

RavenXXX2 · 19 May 2016 at 13:02

Regarding faster than 980sli, nvidia be speaking the truth mostly.

Gregster · 19 May 2016 at 13:06

An AMD fanboys blog. Good comedy read though and it seems like he is the butt hurt one!

tommybhoy · 19 May 2016 at 13:10

Full pariah mode this week I see.

2 X Faster than TX is the new oc'ers dream.

andybird123 · 19 May 2016 at 13:10

wut?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,15.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-6.html

20-30% is just like 2.18% isn't it? maths is hard

nice click bait

Rroff · 19 May 2016 at 13:10

Another load of tripe.

There are plenty of games where the 1080 is faster than 980 SLI and largely lives upto the performance hype more or less.

The actual on paper boost clock TFlops is 8.87 nothing wrong with using the boost clock (and infact the normal way to do it these days) as the basis for that and not the base clock. Plus the actual out the box boost clocks people will be seeing will bring it upto around 9TF or slightly over. For convenience in a presentation it is fairly normal to round up the flops numbers.

Mauller · 19 May 2016 at 13:11

the 'Founders/Throttlers edition' can also throttle down to base clocks after extended use. Even when being used in an open air test rig with a low ambient.

In other words the founders edition is a rip off and not the cool running high clocking performance part they made it out to be at the show. That only applies if you rag the crud out of the fan at 100% constantly. And only then does it keep 65 - 70c when outside a case.

Rroff · 19 May 2016 at 13:14

Mauller said:
the 'Founders/Throttlers edition' can also throttle down to base clocks after extended use. Even when being used in an open air test rig with a low ambient.

In other words the founders edition is a rip off and not the cool running high clocking performance part they made it out to be at the show. That only applies if you rag the crud out of the fan at 100% constantly. And only then does it keep 65 - 70c when outside a case.

That is about the only thing that seems to be an outright misrepresentation so far - they definitely showed in the presentation where the card seemed to be sustaining massive boosts and running cool which reviewers haven't been able to match to quite the same level - without running the card's fans flat out at 100%.

oweneades · 19 May 2016 at 13:15

I don't really understand the point of this thread.

Reviews are already out and show by and large that the 1080 is decent chunk faster than anything that has come before it. Stock vs stock pretty much all of the sites agree on this.

Gregster · 19 May 2016 at 13:15

Why AMD and HBM Matters

I’ve finally purchased one of the hottest selling cards on the market,

http://www.overclock-and-game.com/hardware/computer-tech-reviews

Yer, nothing up with the Fury X I see and no mention of this or that to do with the AMD presentation but here we are dissecting NVidia's presentation with complete BS to boot.

True colours starting to shine for a few people now I see

RavenXXX2 · 19 May 2016 at 13:20

Rroff said:
That is about the only thing that seems to be an outright misrepresentation so far - they definitely showed in the presentation where the card seemed to be sustaining massive boosts and running cool which reviewers haven't been able to match to quite the same level - without running the card's fans flat out at 100%.

Confirmed Nvidia were running fan at 100%

Jono8 · 19 May 2016 at 13:23

This is all a load of cobblers.

8.2 Tflops is the base clock figure 8.9 T flops is the boost clock figure.

Also, it very much does put out 980 sli performance. Also, stock for stock, it is ~30%+ faster than the 980Ti/Titan X.

Disco_P · 19 May 2016 at 13:24

Gregster said:
An AMD fanboys blog. Good comedy read though and it seems like he is the butt hurt one!

With the classic, "I'm not a fanboy - I own an nvidia product!"

Mauller said:
the 'Founders/Throttlers edition' can also throttle down to base clocks after extended use. Even when being used in an open air test rig with a low ambient.

In other words the founders edition is a rip off and not the cool running high clocking performance part they made it out to be at the show. That only applies if you rag the crud out of the fan at 100% constantly. And only then does it keep 65 - 70c when outside a case.

They're still bragging about that number without mentioning the fan speed/noise. http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition

studulike · 19 May 2016 at 13:24

1080 is the new king . all 980ti and TX owners will have to accept it.