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Geforce GTX 1080 Titan , GTX 1080 Ti
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Interesting to note that the rumored new Titan isn't even the full Pascal chip.
Its GP102 @ 478mm2; remember P100 the full fat chip they showcased is 610mm2. So if, and that's a big if; these rumored leaks are true, we're not going to even get the full fat chip.
So like the 1080, where they launched the mid-range chip at high end pricing, we're now possibly getting the high-end chip at original Titan/Halo card pricing. Jaysus!
Its GP102 @ 478mm2; remember P100 the full fat chip they showcased is 610mm2. So if, and that's a big if; these rumored leaks are true, we're not going to even get the full fat chip.
So like the 1080, where they launched the mid-range chip at high end pricing, we're now possibly getting the high-end chip at original Titan/Halo card pricing. Jaysus!
It's no joke - simply reality. AMD no longer provide competition, and even if they did, the vast majority would stick to NVIDIA, as it's the 'cool' thing to do.
I can't wait to see the reaction next generation when the 1180 is launched for £1000!
The G100 Tesla units where bandwidth is far more important and. Arvin's can justify the costs.
I see absolutely no reason for a consumer part to use hBM2.
From the consumer point of view you may be right. However, from Nvidia's point of view it's a license to print money, so it's obvious they have such a card in their sights and it will be released before most people actually need it... yet you can bet thousands will be all over that new shiny like white on rice!
Haha. What a load of crap.
AMD do offer perfect competition.
just at a price people can actually afford.
Why do you say double the transistor, it's not double the size. The specs for GP102 are very realistic IMO.
Titan X is a 980 x 1.5 for everything and 12gb of memory added afterwards.
IE 384bit bus instead of 256bit, 3072 cores instead of 2048 and so on.
A GTX 960 is 0.5 x GTX 980.
I'm really confused at what you are saying regarding your earlier point. In these rumoured specs the Titan is 1.5x the 1080.
From the consumer point of view you may be right. However, from Nvidia's point of view it's a license to print money, so it's obvious they have such a card in their sights and it will be released before most people actually need it... yet you can bet thousands will be all over that new shiny like white on rice!
What you you want nvidia to do, purposely hold back new GPUs hindering progress just so people can use their car for longer
What you you want nvidia to do, purposely hold back new GPUs hindering progress just so people can use their car for longer
No, progress is inevitable, but just picking up on what you said about HBM2 not being required in a consumer product, which it isn't. That won't stop Nvidia releasing it, and when they do it won't be because of their benevolent and relentless pursuit of progress (that will be going on behind the scenes regardless), it will be a business move and timed with maximum profits in mind. That really doesn't need to be said though surely, obvious as it is?!
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Judging by the throttling 1080 ref, surely the Titans have to be AIB coolers from the off this time?
Especially considering it has 1300 more cuda cores than the 1080(!) *
* if those specs linked are anywhere near, of course.
Especially considering it has 1300 more cuda cores than the 1080(!) *
* if those specs linked are anywhere near, of course.
Not too sure to call it a scam, but if I could go back in time, with the knowledge I have now. I would have bought 2 evga 780ti classifieds instead of my 2 current Titan blacks.
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Even though the Titan Black was released after the 780 Ti?
Yeah there was very little performance difference between them.
And we all know where that came from, they have simply copied the Maxwell cards (980 and TX).
This sort of thing always happens with these bogus rumours.
Kaapstad better buy and send me a 1080 or its going to be even more expensive for him.
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This is what happens when there is no competition, I would hope Vegas has something worth showing.
Is there really much difference between the 980Ti and the Titan? Didn't the titan come only in reference form?. So would a 980Ti under water not even better a titan? Surely if they do that again no one in their right mind will buy a titan? I really am looking for (and saving for) a single 4K card this year. Hoping Vega or Ti can do it. even at high not ultra settings.
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That's not exactly true though...take current gen for example...yes whilst AMD has no offering that fully compete with the 980Ti the top, below that tier, AMD has better offering at pretty much at every price point comparing to Nvidia's offering. Whilst Nvidia is waving the "efficiency flag", but in reality the efficiency most likely come from Nvidia lacking on the hardware level Async support for dx12 in their design, and also not to mention they have less vram as well.
The 1080/1070 seem to STILL skimping on hardware support for Async, and only relying on workaround. IMO AMD don't really need something to compete head to head with 1080, as majority of the users are not those willing to spend over £550-£650 for on graphic card, as long as they compete well against 1070 and cards below, AMD should do well...IF (a very big IF) people were sensible enough realise buying a new card at this point should really have proper support for Async at hardware level, instead of insisting on spending more and on buying Nvidia's offering that's lacking of it.
I agree, all of this should be taken with a sack full of salt.
All what these rumours do is cause AMD fanboys indigestion.
The thread title should have been tagged or suggested as rumours.