Leaving EU? (what happens to existing none uk residents?)

jonneymendoza · 23 May 2016 at 23:55

As the title says, if we do leave EU, what will happen to all the none british people living here?

Would they be deported?

Offered to become british citizen?

Some info i found:

The UK is currently obliged to accept ALL persons entering from Europe, regardless of skill level.
The UK public is increasingly concerned by open borders, a recent poll by The Economist/Ipsos MORI found that immigration is now the most prominent issue on the UK’s political agenda.
1.5 Million EU migrants moved to the UK between 2004 and 2010. Most of them were low-skilled. Low-skilled EU migrants can often deprive British citizens of jobs in the low-skilled end of the labour market.
By contrast, more and more non-EU visa applicants are skilled, yet the UK’s non-EU visa cap (for skilled labour) was filled within the first 6 months of 2015.
Migration accounts for one third of the deficit in social housing and undoubtedly puts pressure on public services as a whole.

Ace Modder · 23 May 2016 at 23:57

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dowie · 24 May 2016 at 00:04

well presumably the EU students will revert to the same deal as other international students, people in skilled work would probably have some deal worked out for special visas, people who've stayed here for the required time period could get permanent residence status and/or potentially citizenship, some unskilled workers where there is a shortage or where they're required for temporary agricultural work might well need to get special visas... the rest will presumably not be able to work and will have to either work cash in hand with other illegals or go home

it isn't exactly going to change overnight though - in the event of an out vote it will take 2 years to leave the EU or so? So presumably at that point they won't be allowing free movement/jobs for new arrivals however there would have to be some transition arrangements for existing workers

muon · 24 May 2016 at 00:05

They have exercised their right to live here under current UK laws. So unless the law changes to retrospectively strip them of this right, all EEA citizens are here to stay if they are resident here (realistically no government will change the law to kick residents out).

StriderX · 24 May 2016 at 01:39

Rounded up into camps filled with Typhoo tea bags and no milk.

Kutter · 24 May 2016 at 03:32

more importantly would this stop the travelers coming over from Ireland and setting up camps in carparks etc?

Malevolence · 24 May 2016 at 05:51

doofski said:
more importantly would this stop the travelers coming over from Ireland and setting up camps in carparks etc?

Probably not. ****** seems to be above the law for some reason and can get away with all manner of **** that will get the average British citizen arrested within a heartbeat. I've never understood why the police don't just march into their illegal camps and check all their vehicles for the correct documentation.

Diddums · 24 May 2016 at 07:10

StriderX said:
Rounded up into camps filled with Typhoo tea bags and no milk.

What is wrong with you? Seriously? I'd rather take the gas :eek:

As an EU member stealing yer jerbs, I will be planting a flag, claiming my stake, bangin' yer women and pillaging yer villages!

marc2003 · 24 May 2016 at 07:33

jonneymendoza said:
Would they be deported?

Of course. I can't believe you didn't already know this.

helpimcrap · 24 May 2016 at 07:34

Malevolence said:
Probably not. ****** seems to be above the law for some reason and can get away with all manner of **** that will get the average British citizen arrested within a heartbeat. I've never understood why the police don't just march into their illegal camps and check all their vehicles for the correct documentation.

Because that would breach human rights. Travellers are a 'culture' apparently and not a disease....

helpimcrap · 24 May 2016 at 07:36

I'd imagine those who are staying here and working would be OK. Those without a job I predict will be married to a citizen by the end of the year lol.

glenimp617 · 24 May 2016 at 07:39

doofski said:
more importantly would this stop the travelers coming over from Ireland and setting up camps in carparks etc?

No milk! Savages :eek:

Randomface74 · 24 May 2016 at 07:41

People who are already here won't be kicked out.

scorza · 24 May 2016 at 07:41

Malevolence said:
Probably not. ****** seems to be above the law for some reason and can get away with all manner of **** that will get the average British citizen arrested within a heartbeat. I've never understood why the police don't just march into their illegal camps and check all their vehicles for the correct documentation.

'Cos the police would get their backsides kicked these days.

@OP - in the short term nothing at all would happen. Remember it'll take at least 2 years for the UK to actually leave the EU. After what happens will be up to the government of the day. I personally don't think that anyone living in the UK at the time we leave the EU will lose their right to live and work here. Remember that there are UK citizens living in the EU as well though, there'll probably be some sort of recipricol arrangement negotiated with the EU concerning the status of current and future migrants.

DXP55 · 24 May 2016 at 08:05

helpimcrap said:
Because that would breach human rights. Travellers are a 'culture' apparently and not a disease....

Ya could have fooled me.

snips86x · 24 May 2016 at 08:10

Should take a leaf out of the Aussie book and not let them in unless they have valuable skills which will can contribute towards the country/economy!

Roar87 · 24 May 2016 at 08:50

snips86x said:
Should take a leaf out of the Aussie book and not let them in unless they have valuable skills which will can contribute towards the country/economy!

Most countries do that, not just Australia. It's only the barmy EU who make us let everyone in regardless of their ability to work

snips86x · 24 May 2016 at 08:53

Roar87 said:
Most countries do that, not just Australia. It's only the barmy EU who make us let everyone in regardless of their ability to work

I think your description of 'Barmy' is correct...there is only one reason I would consider opting out, and that's due to the fact I currently cannot afford to buy a house. With a possible crash in the market, they would allow me to buy! I'm however wondering if leaving would be a mistake in 5-10 years time prompting them to join again...

Roar87 · 24 May 2016 at 10:00

snips86x said:
I think your description of 'Barmy' is correct...there is only one reason I would consider opting out, and that's due to the fact I currently cannot afford to buy a house. With a possible crash in the market, they would allow me to buy! I'm however wondering if leaving would be a mistake in 5-10 years time prompting them to join again...

There won't be a significant drop in house prices, maybe a slow down of growth as demand is lessened

Glaucus · 24 May 2016 at 10:23

snips86x said:
I think your description of 'Barmy' is correct...there is only one reason I would consider opting out, and that's due to the fact I currently cannot afford to buy a house. With a possible crash in the market, they would allow me to buy! I'm however wondering if leaving would be a mistake in 5-10 years time prompting them to join again...

In a crash you would be just as unable to buy a house.
This whole vote really has stopped people from being able to think.

If theres a house market crash it's because mortgage aren't as available and or have risen in cost, so it's no easier fir you to buy.
The only people it helps out is rich people with massive deposits worth a substantial amount if the property value.

For housing to become more affordable we need many new laws, not a crash.