Geforce GTX 1080 Titan , GTX 1080 Ti

[varkanoid]

I agree, all of this should be taken with a sack full of salt.

All what these rumours do is cause AMD fanboys indigestion.

The thread title should have been tagged or suggested as rumours.

I've been reading the chinese page the figures came from and I cant see where it actually says the source of the graphic so its not worth further discussion.
What I did find funny was a couple of threads on the chinese forum complaining the 1070 is expected to be 5000 yen (comments say it should be 2000-3000 yen). Although my translation might be off.

5000 yen is £31.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I've been reading the chinese page the figures came from and I cant see where it actually says the source of the graphic so its not worth further discussion.
What I did find funny was a couple of threads on the chinese forum complaining the 1070 is expected to be 5000 yen (comments say it should be 2000-3000 yen). Although my translation might be off.

5000 yen is £31.

Surely the yen price is missing a 0 at the end? Or you sure they don't mean "yuan", which is the China currency and 5000 yuan is around £500.

It make more sense to me they that they are complaining about 1070 being £500 rather than £31

 

[Jono8]

I've been reading the chinese page the figures came from and I cant see where it actually says the source of the graphic so its not worth further discussion.
What I did find funny was a couple of threads on the chinese forum complaining the 1070 is expected to be 5000 yen (comments say it should be 2000-3000 yen). Although my translation might be off.

5000 yen is £31.

I think you will find they are talking about Chinese Yuan not Yen.

 

[beany_bot]

I've been reading the chinese page the figures came from and I cant see where it actually says the source of the graphic so its not worth further discussion.
What I did find funny was a couple of threads on the chinese forum complaining the 1070 is expected to be 5000 yen (comments say it should be 2000-3000 yen). Although my translation might be off.

5000 yen is £31.

Yen is Japaense. 5000 Chinese Yaun is about £550 or so.

 

[cadmunkey]

Depending on the memory spec of the Titan, I'll probably grab one unless its crazy titan z pricing.

 

[subbytna]

Titan FE seems quite cheap, i thought it would be over a £1000.

£1000 for a graphics card isn't cheap, it's a joke.

 

[nomadd]

£1000 for a graphics card isn't cheap, it's a joke.

First Pro-level 24 bits per pixel card I programmed was in mid-1980s for a TV company client. Typical integrated graphics today would blow that card into the dust.

That card - actually the size of a small fridge with all the industry standard outputs and video overlay - was state of the art. It cost £7,500, in mid-1980s money. So what, £20-30k in today's money?

£1k for a top-end card is reasonable. Not cheap, but certainly not a "joke".

 

[Purgatory]

£1000 for a graphics card isn't cheap, it's a joke.

Agree... top end mid range card should really not be anything more than £350 lets get real it's a card used to play games. Then they should make the work cards with same chips and work related drivers at £500+.



I said this ages ago its all got out of hand now. While others scream cards were always £700 for top cards and it's inflation and all that. Technology was meant to get cheaper and cheaper to make and sell.


I remember the good days when a top end card like a AMD/ATI 5870 cost £350.

When they started to get near £500 I started to speak up about it but landed on deaf ears on these forums.


I remember after the Matrox G400 I paid £500 ish for a top end nvidia card that came in a brown envelope and a brown box ( I paid that because you could mod it into a Quadro, real Quadros were in the £1000's) that was beaten badly only a few months later for around £250 by ATI and picked it up in the puple shirt places bargain bins for £120 as the box was mangled but the card was perfectly fine. Next update was a AMD/ATI 4870 , 5870, GTX 580, GTX 780ti and now the 980ti..


Prices are silly when you get a mid range part costing £620-650 in its basic form a reference card.. It should be half the price and then the top end part like the titans and ti should be ti for £450 and Titan £550-£600 max.

980ti is clearly the most expensive card I paid for at £600 and yes if I count inflation for the £500 card I purchased many years ago that really is the most expensive but again I modded it into a Quadro and got good work use out of it too back then with AutoCAD.

 

[VincentHanna]

I remember after the Matrox G400 I paid £500 ish for a top end nvidia card that came in a brown envelope and a brown box ( I paid that because you could mod it into a Quadro, real Quadros were in the £1000's)

980ti is clearly the most expensive card I paid for at £600 and yes if I count inflation for the £500

UK Inflation since 1999 would put a £500 GPU at £794.50 in 2015.

 

[Purgatory]

UK Inflation since 1999 would put a £500 GPU at £794.50 in 2015.

Ohh I know.. but as I said it was worth it as it could be converted with a simple mod to a Quadro that was at least 3 to 4 times the price at that time.

 

[varkanoid]

Yen is Japaense. 5000 Chinese Yaun is about £550 or so.

That now makes sense !

 

[HardStyler3]

Haha. What a load of crap.

AMD do offer perfect competition.
just at a price people can actually afford.

yes but hes right with the other one

 

[KillBoY_UK]

UK Inflation since 1999 would put a £500 GPU at £794.50 in 2015.

thats not even including the increaSE in Vat which would knock it over £800 for sure

 

[Rroff]

It's no joke - simply reality. AMD no longer provide competition, and even if they did, the vast majority would stick to NVIDIA, as it's the 'cool' thing to do.

I can't wait to see the reaction next generation when the 1180 is launched for £1000!

It isn't just about competition, 16nm isn't cheap and it looks like nVidia had to commit a fair bit of money to get GDDR5X in a timely fashion.

 

[subbytna]

There's always talk of "oh but inflation each year hence things appearing more expensive" When the bottom line is that loads on here haven't had a pay rise in years due to the thieving bankers and banking industry ruining the world. I still shake my head at a reference graphics card costing 620-650 quid. Madness.

 

[NirK]

Are there any benchmarks showing that Async compute is a massive improvement? I have read about it many time but the actual performance gains in games do not seem to be a lot. Maybe when Nvidia fully support it then developers will use it more... but currently it seems to make a few FPS difference which is not that big of a deal.

 

[Purgatory]

Are there any benchmarks showing that Async compute is a massive improvement? I have read about it many time but the actual performance gains in games do not seem to be a lot. Maybe when Nvidia fully support it then developers will use it more... but currently it seems to make a few FPS difference which is not that big of a deal.

Async compute is coming "probably" on Volta. Pascal Geforce cards are Maxwell die shrunk, only reason some state there is an improvement is because of the high clocks on the 1080. Stick Maxwell at same clocks = same. Also there are some people stating the IPC of Maxwell to Pascal Geforce has a drop in IPC. Well we will know soon enough when they can clock the 1080 down to Maxwell speeds, so far they can't do that from what I understand as there is no tool to allow under stock clocks.

Also any Async compute improvements are all going to be driver based on Maxwell and Pascal. We will see once they release the 1080 drivers and if they have any Async compute improvements that will also help Maxwell cards too.

 

[Sem]

£1000 for a graphics card isn't cheap, it's a joke.

it is a compete joke and im shocked and saddened so many people have been brainwashed by nvidia by this whole titan thing

 

[Marine-RX179]

There's always talk of "oh but inflation each year hence things appearing more expensive" When the bottom line is that loads on here haven't had a pay rise in years due to the thieving bankers and banking industry ruining the world. I still shake my head at a reference graphics card costing 620-650 quid. Madness.

I simply can't believe people use inflation as a reasoning for price hike for tech products. If they think inflation make so much sense for price hike for graphic card, then may be they should still be paying £2K for HD or Full HD TV instead of 4K TV, because technological advancement over the years is not a thing, and improvement in performance over time people should need to pay a premium for!

The price hike for the Nvidia's card is more like 99% to do with their greed and 1% to do with inflation

 

[Gibbo]

Titan FE seems quite cheap, i thought it would be over a £1000.

This!

For a Titan that is cheap, cheaper than were currently selling some Titan X at and yes they are selling.