X-Men: Apocalypse ere

Just got back from this. I went in expecting not much, I actually came out quite liking it! Quicksilver stole to movie again, his scene was awesome, kind of want to see it again just for that part! Sophie Turner, despite a slightly dodgy American accent (which was nowhere near as bad as Martin Freeman's in CA:Civil War) wasn't too bad as Jean Grey either. I kind of warmed to her, the new Scott Summers and Nightcrawler characters too, and thought their little sub-team was pretty good. I could watch a future movie based on them. Jubilee was a wasted character.

A few negatives with spoilers...

Old claw hands really didn't need to have his scene apart from continuity of escaping from the Weapon X program. His costume designer should have been fired...what the hell was he wearing on his head! It looked so badly made!

Also Scott Summers' visor at the end looked like something from Battlestar Galactica. But I guess it was supposed to be set in the 80's.

Angel started out ok but once he became Archangel he was pretty dull, also Psylocke (despite that outfit) was pretty average.
I'd actually give it 8.5/10

I didn't think i'd say this but it entertained me more than Captain American: Civil "Fight at the Airport" War/Argument. Definitely more grander action. It's not perfect, but I think it has more ups than downs. Maybe because I wasn't expecting much from the start. The finale action was so loud and long in the cinema I went to though my ears feel like they've been to a nightclub :o
 
Summed it up pretty much perfectly for me too Wzd. I didn't think it was amazing but it was entertaining enough and your comments on all the characters are about right. I'm glad I got round to seeing it at the cinema this time - I'm not sure if DoFP just sucked or the issue was that I wasn't in a cinema when I saw it.
 
Agree with most of Wzd's points.

I actually liked the Wolverine part due to continuity.

Quicksilver's scene was absolutely brilliant, even better than DoFP (which was pretty good).

Spoke to a friend last night and gave it 6.5/10 but on reflection I think probably 7.5 was fair.

Not a big fan of Sophie Turner in it but then for me she's a bit type cast and still is a 'spoilt brat' from GoT in my mind.

When does Storm lose her accent? Or is that irrelevant given the Apocalypse event clearly didn't happen in the old timeline
 
Think I'm a fairly easy to please person. Only care if I'm satisfied with a movie rather than if it was excellent or good only etc.

Fairly up to date with all the lore in comics so found all the referencing and suggesting to be quite fulfilling for me. But again, I'm an easy going person on movies.

What I liked: (In no particular order)

1. Introduction: The early "origins" of Apocalypse.
2. Jean going Phoenix, when it was apparent that the combined abilities of Magneto chucking everything at Apocalypse, Cyclops using his optic blasts, Xavier battling Apocalypse on the Astral plane, etc was not even slowing Apocalypse down much less stop him.
3. Quicksilver. Being Quicksilver. :D
4. Wolverine in Weapon X gear.
5. Little moments here and there:
Cyclops little "the American's being formerly British" got a nice little chuckle in the cinema where I was (London).
Xavier being flustered over being asked if he's ever "looked up" Moira using Cerebro.
Nightcrawler waking up at the last moment after everything is done and dusted and still yelling out to everyone to "hold on".
6. The Danger Room in action.

What I liked that could be implied and linked to other movies:

1. In X-Men 3 : Last Stand end credits, Charles took over another body. Charles did not seem to exhibit such a capability before, although not implied that he never could. But now looking at what Apocalypse did in this movie, I wonder if Charles was able to duplicate this effect in that credits scene through Astral form through what he suffered from and his link to Apocalypse?
2. I dunno, but did anyone else get a feeling that those cards flying at you from the screen in the intro bit remind or make anyone else think of Gambit? It did with me.
3. Whilst the end credit scene showed the Essex Corporation, implying Mr Sinister, there is something else that is of note that others are not thinking of online. Whilst everyone is saying that the Wolverine blood sample is going to be used to create X-23, there is also the possibility of re-creating Apocaylpse; the mutant that Oscar Isaac played after all, had a healing factor just like Logan before the Apocalypse in his previous body took it over and gained his Healing Factor (which again, is similar to X-Men 3 : Last Stand, when logan was being ripped apart at the cellular level and restores himself, much like Apocalypse was here at the end). And Mr Sinister is a known ally of Apocalypse before. There was also some other blood samples there too, but I didn't get enough time to glance at names on them. Unlikely, but easily something to be used to bring Apocalypse back whenever they want to.

What I felt could be improved upon:

1. Apocalypses' goals. There was a line Apocalypse was telling Charles to tell everyone of the world, and it was the classic comic Darwin idea of "The Strong shall inherit the Earth". But this doesn't necessarily co-inside with his "apparent" want to subjugate the world to his whim. Something, maybe a line from Moira should have been added that point blank makes it clear. It would have been more satisfying to know the goal.
2. All is Revealed. That is what Apocalypse says on seeing Phoenix. Doesn't make sense within the confines of the movie in itself without some knowledge of lore and reading up of news of what could be up ahead. Stuff like this needs to be limited I feel to reduce loose ends from someone who is apparently "dead". But as it is Apocalypse, and Mr Sinister is coming up, Apocalypse could easily come back. After all, the main story between that lot is: Apocalypse, Mr Sinister, Cyclops, Jean and Cable (And of course, Rachel Summers and Nate Grey as well as Stryfe and so on). And we know Cable is coming in Deadpool as well. So not necessarily the end of Apocalypse... Good times ahead. :)

That's it for what I generally thought of the movie. Would definitely go and watch again. :)
 
Saw it about 2h ago..

I thought it was actually alright. I had seen bad reviews.
It didn't make much sense from about the middle onwards but i didn't get bored and didn't think too hard.

The baddies where a joke... and Magneto ? That guy is the biggest flip flopper in the universe.
 
4/10 for me as I agree the casting was dreadful and apocalypse himself didn't really do all that much in the grand scheme of things. I didn't once feel threatened by him due to the following reasons:

He kills loads of people instantly by manipulating matter yet can't kill any of the mutants the same way and doesn't even try to either.

The reasons the people have for following him are terrible for psylocke and storm too as they willingly sign up to mass murder.

Apocalypse doesn't even have most of his abilities and his actual flaw isn't even in the film which featured in the comic.
 
Found this and Civil War to be disappointing - I think this less so because I expected more from CW. It entertained me but its the weakest in the trilogy and Im not sure how it fits within DoFP timeline.

Superhero movies are coming thick and fast and finding it hard not to be a bit jaded.

Magneto while the most three dimensional of the characters apart from Wolverine just seems to flip between the extremes - someone needs to put him on the naughty step.
Apocalypse just didnt feel special and nowhere near my memories of him from the cartoon.
The 4 horsemens motivations just werent explained - we get more power so lets become bad. So little character development there so when they turned against him it was just 'yawn'
Didnt mind Wolverines scene - kinda was nice to tie it back to Xmen 2/Xmen Origins
When Jean Grey turned into Phoenix I expected her to be more affected by it, hell there wasnt much gravitas (dont think thats the word Im looking for) to that at all
Quicksilvers scene while good and a nice piece of levity just was a bit over-egged
End credits scene
Anyone want to comment on the vials? One I guess (the blue one) was what Hank/Professor X were using to manage their mutations/appearance. What was the yellow one?
I expect this film to be forgetful

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Am I the only one that finds that Quicksilver "facecam" thing irritating to look at? It's like looking at a bug eyed frog.
 
No no no no!

That quip about the third film always being the worst was a self fulfilling prophecy (if you consider First Class the first of this reboot trilogy).

I'll get in to my whys later, not impressed at all.

What I liked:
The prof's bumbling when talking to Moira again.
Kurt was good, and offered the best comedic moments.
Psylocke was fit.
I enjoyed the old Horsemen kicking the rebel butts in fun and gruesome ways at the start.

What I didn't:
Apocalypse's breathy/whisper voice being completely unscary, he is supposed have a powerful booming voice.

Scott's optic blasts apparently being lasers when it is well documented that they are just concussive force and don't burn things, like Xavier's 'favourite' tree.

The already screwy timeline from the first 2 films becoming stupidly screwy:
Jubilee being in school with the other characters who should all be 10+ years her senior.
Kurt being rescued by Raven, given that she is supposed to be his mother.

A wooden arrow, with no metal tip, fired from a makeshift bow (that was not an Olympic grade composite bow) being able to pierce 2 people when accidentally fired.

Xavier's constant ignoring of Erik's body count.

Psylocke being COMPLETELY pointless. One of my favourite X-men characters, with a cool backstory and lore, being totally ruined for what I am assuming is gratuitous T&A. Why did she become a Horseman? Why didn't she get any new costume/visual upgrades? Was the boost in power given to her just the ability to generate a psy-lasso?

Angel's journey from wealthy philanthropist and media-face for mutants, to becoming the Archangel of death was great in the comics, and a crucial part of the Apocalypse storyline. Now he's a cage fighting random who is given metal blade wings and a hipster haircut after speaking a total of 2 lines, and no more for the rest of the film? Blergh.

Storm also receiving nothing but a hairstyle upgrade, but then being welcomed in to the main team without any concerns about her flip-flopping nature. At least the bit about her being a thief in Cairo in her youth as accurate.

Quicksilver's scene was just an upgraded version of what we saw in DoFP (which seemed to be everyone's favourite scene), which is a bit of a cop-out for that very reason.

Hollywood's obsession with sand/particle effects.

The eye/face scan to enter Cerebro becoming an X was kinda cheesy, but forgivable... then Mags makes a big X at the end with metal beams *groan*

I also don't think the cheesy Sky adverts featuring them helps, really just devalues the whole feel of the film.

So if I had to order X-men related films (never bothered with The Wolverine):

1. Deadpool
2. Days of Future Past
3. First Class
4. X-Men
5. X2
6. Wolvie Origins
7. Apocalypse
8. Last Stand
 
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Why Angel? I thought he wanted powerful mutants? Magneto was leagues ahead in terms of power.

Apocalypse - didn't care for him too much, he was OK but as others have said, I wish he had captured more of the 90s cartoon version.

Cliché number 131 - show off your amazing powers/gadgets at the start and don't use them in the final battle, resorting to telekinetic throwing should suffice.

Jennifer Lawrence appeared to phone it in.

Green screen of the final battle was a little flaky.

Some of the dialogue/screen play was shocking and belonged in a parody.

Getting tired of the destruction of half the world in all these films now and the emptiness/lack of emotional impact that follows.

Quicksilver was great, as was Magneto.

PS - I think Charles needs to sort out Cerebro. It's always getting broken into or smashed to pieces!
 
Saw it last night and I was pleasantly surprised by it. Thought it would be a pile of crap but surprisingly not bad.

Loved the Quicksilver bit when the house was being blown up, was hilarious and for me the best part of the movie.

Sansa aka Jean?? Nah not my cup of tea honestly, didn't think she did the role justice. Same with storm, wasn't that impressed with the pair of them.

Magneto?? Thought Fassbender was great but come on dude, make up your damned mind ie you want to be good or bad lol.

Wolverines little cameo was cool though.

8/10 for me.
 
Xmen Apolalypse just shows how easily pleased modern cinema audiences are. It was By far the weakest Xmen movie I have seen for all the reasons listed above. Awful script, some awful casting and characterisation that saw series favourites reduced to feeble bit parts and so many plot holes that suspension of disbelief was night on impossible during the last half of the movie. Apocalypse was a tragedy and a real disappointment, he felt less powerful than Magneto. Speaking of Magneto, he causes untold deaths and all this is glossed over as ok? Storm also complicit in mass murder and all forgotten? Give me a break.

The whole movie was an insult to the fans, and even my mate who is the biggest diehard comic book junkie ever hated it.
 
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